Tim the ladder that I made [for about$ 3.00] in change for nuts & bolts , Plus my time work well for me I also added a swing down platform 2x2 for my yellow lab onto the bottom rung.This ladder assits me and my dog to get into "the Hawk' same as a banks, or TDB by attaching it to the rub rail,so if I have to get out of the boat in knee deep water I can get back in. If you decide to make one You can give me a call I'll be glad to explain it better to you Cas at 1-302-999-1013 in Delaware