noweil Mike
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Been talking with a good friend who is a pheasant hunter about going duck hunting with me. Here is what he wrote: " Lots of stuff for waterfowl. Only need a dog and a gun for pheasants."
A pheasant hunters perspective on duck hunting
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mike braden
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Yup....that's about it..
Steve Sanford
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Good morning, Mike~
Of course, there are opportunities for waterfowl hunting that rival the simplicity of pheasant hunting.
In certain years, we get reliable pass shooting on Canadas right here on the farm. With just my Model 12 and a pocket-full of BB loads, I can stroll out from the house and enjoy some high-anticipation hunting for about an hour on many mornings. Most are out of range but enough come right over the tree tops to provide plenty of suspense. I usually wear my Muck Boots and a face mask as I stand in a hedgerow, but neither is necessary. Compared with the big field and water rig we often set for the same species, I think of these as "low investment hunts".
I remember one last-day-of-season shoot where I tore myself away from the football game on TV and walked out back to our "high spot" in a nor'west gale. Both 3 big gobblers and 4 big does offered me nice shots, but it was 2 big Canadas I hauled back to the house. I missed the final quarter of the first game, but enjoyed the late game.....
Two or 3 afternoons each season I can either sneak our ponds or sit at the "exit" from Home Pond and hope a few Woodies or Mallards come out over me before quitting time.
All the best,
SJS
Of course, there are opportunities for waterfowl hunting that rival the simplicity of pheasant hunting.
In certain years, we get reliable pass shooting on Canadas right here on the farm. With just my Model 12 and a pocket-full of BB loads, I can stroll out from the house and enjoy some high-anticipation hunting for about an hour on many mornings. Most are out of range but enough come right over the tree tops to provide plenty of suspense. I usually wear my Muck Boots and a face mask as I stand in a hedgerow, but neither is necessary. Compared with the big field and water rig we often set for the same species, I think of these as "low investment hunts".
I remember one last-day-of-season shoot where I tore myself away from the football game on TV and walked out back to our "high spot" in a nor'west gale. Both 3 big gobblers and 4 big does offered me nice shots, but it was 2 big Canadas I hauled back to the house. I missed the final quarter of the first game, but enjoyed the late game.....
Two or 3 afternoons each season I can either sneak our ponds or sit at the "exit" from Home Pond and hope a few Woodies or Mallards come out over me before quitting time.
All the best,
SJS
James A. Miller
Member
Keeping it simple . . .
I remember before "spinning wing decoys" duck hunting seemed much less complicated. Now one "spinner" is two or three . . .
Miller
I remember before "spinning wing decoys" duck hunting seemed much less complicated. Now one "spinner" is two or three . . .
Miller
Bill Clark
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I like keeping it simple. Just returned from PT.Mouillee waterfowl festival was lucky to sell a lot of stuff including one Lucky duck and one MOJO battery powered,remote controlled PLASTIC decoy?
Free again free again. Now back to working on refurbing some Herters model 72's and building up my black cork rig.
I feel much better. Oh i do enjoy the gearless freedom of field hunting with a vintage 870 and my best pal "RUFUS".
Free again free again. Now back to working on refurbing some Herters model 72's and building up my black cork rig.
I feel much better. Oh i do enjoy the gearless freedom of field hunting with a vintage 870 and my best pal "RUFUS".
Bill Ferrar
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It is a passion,,,,,,,,,,,,,
I pheasant hunted for years, I spend The morning hunting and the afternoon removing ticks LOL
The one thing that is nice about duck hunting you need as much as you want. I started out as a kid with a gun, no hunting clothes no wader, or decoys and would walk the marsh. Now I have everything and need more...
I pheasant hunted for years, I spend The morning hunting and the afternoon removing ticks LOL
The one thing that is nice about duck hunting you need as much as you want. I started out as a kid with a gun, no hunting clothes no wader, or decoys and would walk the marsh. Now I have everything and need more...
Jim Boyer
Active member
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Fred McIntire
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I did that with deer hunting. I think I've settled down now after 35 plus years of Whitetail deer hunting. I did buy a couple of guns last year in anticipation of some rule changes, that never happened....
When I really got back into waterfowl hunting last year, I bought a MLB Chuck Huff boat. I told myself I was going to keep it simple. The plan was to buy a dozen cork mallard decoys and gun over them. The cork decoys never came about, but a dozen mallards, a dozen black ducks, 6 Pintails, and a dozen floater Canada geese decoys later, I'm still building on to the list of "I needs". And no they won't all fit into the little boat either. LoL.
I'm really looking forward to using that Browning Gold Light 10 Gauge that I bought this year.......
Fred
If I was told that I had to give up waterfowling, but in exchange, I would be able to enjoy good pheasant hunting for the remainder of my life, I wouldn't hesitate to say, YES! Everything about pheasants; habitat they live in; dog work in the field; factoring in terrain structure, cover and wind in a hunt; the rush of a bird taking flight; their quality as table fare, all underscore why I enjoy hunting them so much. After a lifetime of averaging 4 shots per grouse in the game bag, hitting pheasants in flight is a "cake walk"-very soothing to the ego versus my other upland bird hunting pursuit! No, I will not own a pointer, enough said on that!
I am also beginning to run out of body parts that are mine, so a day in the marsh is becoming a long day's effort!
I am also beginning to run out of body parts that are mine, so a day in the marsh is becoming a long day's effort!
Bill Clark
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WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO pointer??? All i can say to that is ,you have no sense of adventure.
Honestly the new Pudelpointer pup is doing very well in the water at least as well as my last lab. We are working on whoa which has not yet sunk into his fuzzy head.
How about some pictures of the TDB improvements?
Honestly the new Pudelpointer pup is doing very well in the water at least as well as my last lab. We are working on whoa which has not yet sunk into his fuzzy head.
How about some pictures of the TDB improvements?
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I have not replaced and body parts ,,,yet, but that is why I duck hunt rather pheasant hunt. The pheasant hunting is harder on MY body. :>) I can go at a slower pace when setting decoys. I can do it all from the boat, no walking. I can sit and let the birds come to me, no walking :>).
As we get older, we do what we have to do to continue to enjoy the outdoors.
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I have not replaced and body parts ,,,yet, but that is why I duck hunt rather pheasant hunt. The pheasant hunting is harder on MY body. :>) I can go at a slower pace when setting decoys. I can do it all from the boat, no walking. I can sit and let the birds come to me, no walking :>).
As we get older, we do what we have to do to continue to enjoy the outdoors.
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Bill,
I had the whole sequence typed and pics loaded a couple of days ago, but the session timed-out. I decided to just load pics and then come back and edit-in commentary, but while doing multiple cut/ paste insertions I hit paste in the highlighted url line in photobucket, resulting in nearly all photos' url being altered...
Bow compartment bulkheads in after laying two layers of Kevlar 5oz. on the outboard bow hull sections. I hollowed out the foam along the keel in the bow and layed another layer of Kevlar cloth down the keel back to the below-deck drain. I epoxied three more layers of Kevlar 5oz. at alternating 45 degree angles to the underlay layer within the 22" x21" bow compartment and did a series of foam pours via some vent holes I cut in the foredeck with a hole saw. I mounted squares of 1.5 CSM on the top portions of these cookies to epoxy them back in the foredeck when done.
Two overlapping layers of 9" wide Kevlar 5oz. down the interior chines of the decoy compartments for the first three feet, then a single layer the remainder of the compartment's length to protect the exterior chines from abrading through. I "buried" these under two 12" wide lengths of 1708 biaxial cloth with 3/4oz. CSM backing, sanded these after several days cure, and coated the interior decoy compartments with Tuff Coat sand tan in three applications, prior reinstalling the decoy curtains with new bungee cord. I added a 2" closed cell foam board layer to the foredeck bulkheads with a 4mm Coremat facing covered in 1.5 oz. CSM over these and the PVC piece sections I epoxied in as column supports to strengthen and plumb the bulkhead faces. I had to notch the bases about a half-inch to fit the bow compartment grass rail back in.
I think I sent you pics of the rework of the bow compartment hatch door with the recessed stainless pull I mounted in the original "hole". All the wood supports for the grassing rail, rear bulkhead corner supports and the hatch's piano hinge were encapsulated in epoxy prior being installed with either epoxy or gorilla glue. I used that 14 ounce woven cloth you gave me to reinforce the hull sections behind the registration numbers. I split it in half and it fit perfectly.
I necked-down the 4" PVC under deck drain by epoxying-in a section of female Schedule 40 1.5" I.D. conduit in the opening, which was used to seat a ten inch section of Schedule 40 with an end cap. This was drilled with a series of drain holes at a 170 degree arc, so the compartment would still drain aft, but water would not slosh forward from the bilge into the bow compartment. I can also remove the Schedule 40 drain section to flush debris back into the bilge recess after the season for clean-up.
I epoxied a layer of 7oz. Delrin down on the work deck (My thanks to Brad Taylor for the words of encouragement on working with Delrin.) by weighting the outside edges with some barbells to keep the cloth rigid and under pressure while the epoxy resin settled in it and allowed me to work it out from the centerline.
I installed a Rule 800GPH bilge pump in the bilge sump, mounted the strainer basket with 3m 5200 and rigged it to discharge into the splash well. Four red 4" waterproof LED banks are now mounted on the cockpit cowling's underside behind where you had the Svelling goose decoy gunnel bags installed, and one 6" bank is mounted facing aft in the bow area with Ancor wire. Labels and switches added for the bilge pump and deck lights to the control panel and a little wiring "clean-up" work done.
I came-up with 72lbs added to the dry weight for resin and fiberglass/Kevlar cloth, and 154lbs. positive flotation added in the bow.
Boat is loaded now with grass and decoys. I leave tomorrow for the Lake Michigan side for the opener.
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I had the whole sequence typed and pics loaded a couple of days ago, but the session timed-out. I decided to just load pics and then come back and edit-in commentary, but while doing multiple cut/ paste insertions I hit paste in the highlighted url line in photobucket, resulting in nearly all photos' url being altered...
Bow compartment bulkheads in after laying two layers of Kevlar 5oz. on the outboard bow hull sections. I hollowed out the foam along the keel in the bow and layed another layer of Kevlar cloth down the keel back to the below-deck drain. I epoxied three more layers of Kevlar 5oz. at alternating 45 degree angles to the underlay layer within the 22" x21" bow compartment and did a series of foam pours via some vent holes I cut in the foredeck with a hole saw. I mounted squares of 1.5 CSM on the top portions of these cookies to epoxy them back in the foredeck when done.
Two overlapping layers of 9" wide Kevlar 5oz. down the interior chines of the decoy compartments for the first three feet, then a single layer the remainder of the compartment's length to protect the exterior chines from abrading through. I "buried" these under two 12" wide lengths of 1708 biaxial cloth with 3/4oz. CSM backing, sanded these after several days cure, and coated the interior decoy compartments with Tuff Coat sand tan in three applications, prior reinstalling the decoy curtains with new bungee cord. I added a 2" closed cell foam board layer to the foredeck bulkheads with a 4mm Coremat facing covered in 1.5 oz. CSM over these and the PVC piece sections I epoxied in as column supports to strengthen and plumb the bulkhead faces. I had to notch the bases about a half-inch to fit the bow compartment grass rail back in.
I think I sent you pics of the rework of the bow compartment hatch door with the recessed stainless pull I mounted in the original "hole". All the wood supports for the grassing rail, rear bulkhead corner supports and the hatch's piano hinge were encapsulated in epoxy prior being installed with either epoxy or gorilla glue. I used that 14 ounce woven cloth you gave me to reinforce the hull sections behind the registration numbers. I split it in half and it fit perfectly.
I necked-down the 4" PVC under deck drain by epoxying-in a section of female Schedule 40 1.5" I.D. conduit in the opening, which was used to seat a ten inch section of Schedule 40 with an end cap. This was drilled with a series of drain holes at a 170 degree arc, so the compartment would still drain aft, but water would not slosh forward from the bilge into the bow compartment. I can also remove the Schedule 40 drain section to flush debris back into the bilge recess after the season for clean-up.
I epoxied a layer of 7oz. Delrin down on the work deck (My thanks to Brad Taylor for the words of encouragement on working with Delrin.) by weighting the outside edges with some barbells to keep the cloth rigid and under pressure while the epoxy resin settled in it and allowed me to work it out from the centerline.
I installed a Rule 800GPH bilge pump in the bilge sump, mounted the strainer basket with 3m 5200 and rigged it to discharge into the splash well. Four red 4" waterproof LED banks are now mounted on the cockpit cowling's underside behind where you had the Svelling goose decoy gunnel bags installed, and one 6" bank is mounted facing aft in the bow area with Ancor wire. Labels and switches added for the bilge pump and deck lights to the control panel and a little wiring "clean-up" work done.
I came-up with 72lbs added to the dry weight for resin and fiberglass/Kevlar cloth, and 154lbs. positive flotation added in the bow.
Boat is loaded now with grass and decoys. I leave tomorrow for the Lake Michigan side for the opener.
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TimJ
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Bill I remember you asking about PP pups but I don't remember any updates or puppy photos. Sounds like you are starting on the great adventure in the Ugly Dog world...and now we need photos.
Heck my 1 1/2 year old Wirehair isn't completely dependable on whoa yet. He is good at steady to flush on pigeons. Its getting better but I'm not confident that has translated it 100% to pheasants yet.
BTW shooting a bird over a point is as good as it gets.
Tim
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Frank Lopez
New member
The nice thing about being retired is that I can hunt every day if I want and I can decide on what I'm after when I get up in the morning. Well, it really isn't that simple, but it isn't complicated, either. Here on LI, our pheasant season starts Nov 1 and ends Dec 31. Our waterfowl season starts around Thanksgiving, with week's split and ends the end of January for ducks and Mid Feb for geese. Basically, we hunt pheasant on the state property on weekends and hunt waterfowl during the week. The nice part about hunting during the week is that you basically have the entire marsh all to ourselves. Nice gig!
Frank
Frank
Bill Clark
Well-known member
Tim,
I would like to post photos but have not been successful to date. I do have some stored in the computer just have to figure out how to post. My son helps me when he has time.
Rufus is now 7 mos old, has a great nose and loves the water. Yesterday we went to a preserve where he pointed his first 2 pheasants,held point on one and made what passes for a retrieve. It was 83 degrees we quit after 2 birds. At least he knows what pheasants are.
I would like to post photos but have not been successful to date. I do have some stored in the computer just have to figure out how to post. My son helps me when he has time.
Rufus is now 7 mos old, has a great nose and loves the water. Yesterday we went to a preserve where he pointed his first 2 pheasants,held point on one and made what passes for a retrieve. It was 83 degrees we quit after 2 birds. At least he knows what pheasants are.
Bill Clark
Well-known member
Frank,
I am surprised you can find a place to field hunt, i left the island in 1971 it was tough to find a place to hunt even then.
We did have good diver shooting on the north shore.
I am surprised you can find a place to field hunt, i left the island in 1971 it was tough to find a place to hunt even then.
We did have good diver shooting on the north shore.
Bill Clark
Well-known member
Rick,
You have done a lot of work to her, i think it is safe to call her a custom "classic". Again i hope you enjoy her as much as i did.
Good luck on the trip, i'll settle for a few TDB tailgate shots of your bag.
Stay safe.
You have done a lot of work to her, i think it is safe to call her a custom "classic". Again i hope you enjoy her as much as i did.
Good luck on the trip, i'll settle for a few TDB tailgate shots of your bag.
Stay safe.