Carl wanted more input; Dave D. made us drool over his Poke Boats; Here is my recent deal...

Larry Eckart

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Guys (and Dani),
Carl's recent post, "It Must Be Summer" reminded me that I had not posted in a while.

Dave Diefendierfer's post on "stealing" two Poke Boats reminded me that I added a new vehicle for hunting, fishing and camping pursuits: a 2008 4Runner.

I have a 2002 two-wheel drive Tacoma and had a 2013 Honda CRV. CRV's are CRV's: comfort runabout vehicles. When I worked full time as a pastor I needed a vehicle that got good gas mileage in my travels. But now I'm retired.

I realized that here I live in Raleigh, 200 miles from some of the best surf fishing in America and beaches on which I can drive if I had the right vehicle, and no such vehicle in my fleet. The Tacoma I would keep. The CRV needed to go. My wife became aware that the amount of time I spent on Craigslist suddenly soared. "What are you looking for now?" she said. "Nothing honey," I said.

It is a good woman who knows you are up to something and allows your fib to not be labeled a lie.

I got bids on the CRV from Carmax, Carvana and another site. Carvana offered about $2,000 more than Carmax. You might keep that in mind if you are selling a car.

Selling the Honda went quickly. Finding a 4Runner took six weeks. I did not realize the degree to which used 4Runners are sought. Once I called three minutes after a 4Runner was posted and I was not the first to call. Once I was the first to call and someone else offered more than seller?s price. I had to get lucky or up my strategy.

I was also being picky. I had these qualifications:
1) Under 175,000 miles, no accidents and documented maintenance record. 4Runners frequently last 300-400,000 miles if taken care of.
2) No rust on the frame.
3) In very good to excellent condition and I preferred a fourth generation, 2002-2009, the generation in which Toyota moved to a timing change.
4) Not previously used off road a great deal or tricked out for off-road. (Those vehicles experience more damage and rough use.)
5) Within my price range.

Those qualifications severely limited my choices. Thus, it took me six weeks.

I had been looking exclusively on Craigslist, planning to avoid a dealer or used car lots and buy straight from an individual whom I could get a feel for how they took care of their property.

One day I added autotrader.com to my checklist and a 2008 4Runner appeared at a nearby Toyota dealer that was recently traded in. It was more money than I planned to spend but I went to check it out.

The sales manager called it a "unicorn," a term I did not know meant, "a rare find." As the pictures show, it was in great shape, had 135,000 miles, no rust on the frame, had been owned by one family who used this Toyota dealer for service.

I wasn't happy with the tires. They offered to split the cost on a set of Michelin Defenders.

I took it for a drive. It drove great. It had new brakes. Interior in excellent shape. 4 wheel high worked great.

4 wheel low did not engage.

I knew from my research that with 4Runners, if you don't engage the 4 wheel low once a month it can stop working. Permanently. The family who owned this vehicle never took it off road. The repair is very expensive: $2,000-$2,500!

The sales manager brought out their "4 wheel drive specialist" to try and get it to engage. No go.

I insisted that if they wanted me to buy the vehicle that they replace the accuator which I knew was a $1,000 part and $1,500 labor.

They surprised me. They agreed to split the cost on tires and replace the 4 wheel system at their cost. Later I wondered if they were hoping that someone would buy it without trying out 4 wheel low.

Due to part shortages, I had to wait two weeks to get my vehicle, but the wait was worth it.

I may not get any more ducks than before or catch more fish than before but I will certainly enjoy driving this impressive, solid vehicle. Now I see why the 4Runner enjoys such a strong reputation among outdoor enthusiasts. It is smooth riding while still a beast off road.

Peace to you all,
Larry


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Larry, what a great find. I purchased a 2003 in 2016 for my work truck. It had 68,000 miles on it and today at 153,000 miles is still going strong. They are still built on a truck frame, and you are correct about the gas mileage. 4 wheel low on icy boat ramps is certainly a plus. Enjoy your new find.

RVZ
 
Great find. If your new to surf fishing let me give you a little warning about using your new buggy on salt sand. Invest in a power washer to clean out under side of truck after each excursion. Beach sand will migrate everywhere in and under that vehicle and even the best undercoating job won,t protect your vehicle from undercarriage rust. Think particularly any openings in frame as sand will get in there and rust it out from the inside. Regular undercarriage washs at car was won,t touch 99% of areas sand gets to. I,ve been thru a few beach vehicles myself over the years while surf fishing and found that was only way to limit damage if your going to keep vehicle an extended period of time. Oh and don,t forget to air down your tires to avoid problems once your going on beach. Have fun , its a ball, especially night fishing on the surf.
 
Glad you found a 4Runner Larry! I was kinda sad to give mine up in exchange for the FJ but overall it was a great exchange. The only real downside is that I could sleep totally stretched out in the 4Runner and I can't do that in the FJ. The 4Runner is an outstanding vehicle. You should get lotsa use out of it for many more miles
 
About 15 years ago I bought an old 1987 4Runner from a co-worker for 500 bucks. It was his hunting and fishing vehicle. It then became mine. The front main seal was leaking a bit and throwing oil around the engine compartment but I only need to add a quart or two a year to keep it topped off and I don't feel like having to replace the seal so I buy the extra quart or two of oil every year. I don't take care of it and it is pretty rusty. I had to replace the master cylinder. I bought a used one from the junk yard for ten bucks. I also replaced the rear window regulator as its teeth were worn down. That is about all I have done for it. Despite my neglect it is still my hunting and fishing truck. It still has the same tires that came with it and I am embarrased to say the same oil filter. It is still going strong with 300,000 miles on it. I have no idea what it is going to take for it to give up the ghost. I have tried my best to kill it but it won't get stuck, starts and stops,hauls my boats and canoes and the top comes off for beach running. The worse it looks, the more people like it. They are just a good value that you will get years of service from. It has cost me less than 100 bucks since I owned it for parts, oil and a couple of sets of wiper blades and a fan belt. I hide it in the wood line with my boats so I won't drive down the property values. I am sure you will get a lot of use out of it.
 
Larry

Congrats on the 4Runner. I have a 2008 Tacoma and it has been the best vehicle I've ever owned. Nothing else comes closes. 260K and no major repairs. I think you will get many years of trouble free service.

Eric
 
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