King Eider hunting

Bob Holzworth said:
That looks like a great hunt. What kind of boat, decoys, guide etc, do you use? Bob.

We went through Midwest Hunting Consultants who has the best and only Greenland born Eider Guide. He runs a large heated cabin boat, complete with a zodiac, and several open skiffs. We hunted them a variety of ways from rock islands, to trolling with the big boat and long lines as well as trolling with long lines and the open skiffs.
 
greg setter said:
How does one troll for eiders?

I haven?t personally hunted eiders but I have heard that one method is to hook your long lines to the boat then freely drift about the water dragging your lines behind you. Therefore giving the appearance of trolling the line behind you as you float around
 
A mea culpa is in order before discussing sea duck trolling. I use plastic eider decoys in my old age, so much lighter and easier to manage than wood and cork. And I don't cry when one gets shot.

The sea ducks (scoters, oldsquaws and eiders) are well known for not being particularly boat shy. Especially scoters, who sometimes come close enough to scoop with a net. In areas with current, and deep water, we have always used longlines which we deploy by motoring slowly and then towing them into position to anchor or tie off on shore. We've noticed many times how birds will decoy when the rig is in motion, I guess it's a little like a jerk string. What is particularly effective, and the reason for mention of wood decoys, is that heavier wood decoys tend to submarine when towed. That diving and resurfacing action is like a magnet, the birds must see that as a flock feeding. Of course there's no shooting involved so the birds would sometimes light, fall behind as you move away, get up and light again. Again, especially scoters, the immature coots are oblivious like kids texting.

I don't know if I'll ever get the chance to travel to Greenland or Alaska for a King Eider hunt, but have always wanted to. In all the years I've hunted them we've only gotten a couple (or three?) all by sheer luck. They are a pretty bird.
 
SJ Fairbank said:
A mea culpa is in order before discussing sea duck trolling. I use plastic eider decoys in my old age, so much lighter and easier to manage than wood and cork. And I don't cry when one gets shot.

The sea ducks (scoters, oldsquaws and eiders) are well known for not being particularly boat shy. Especially scoters, who sometimes come close enough to scoop with a net. In areas with current, and deep water, we have always used longlines which we deploy by motoring slowly and then towing them into position to anchor or tie off on shore. We've noticed many times how birds will decoy when the rig is in motion, I guess it's a little like a jerk string. What is particularly effective, and the reason for mention of wood decoys, is that heavier wood decoys tend to submarine when towed. That diving and resurfacing action is like a magnet, the birds must see that as a flock feeding. Of course there's no shooting involved so the birds would sometimes light, fall behind as you move away, get up and light again. Again, especially scoters, the immature coots are oblivious like kids texting.

I don't know if I'll ever get the chance to travel to Greenland or Alaska for a King Eider hunt, but have always wanted to. In all the years I've hunted them we've only gotten a couple (or three?) all by sheer luck. They are a pretty bird.

Perfect explanation. In Greenland you are allowed to shoot from the boat while trolling and like you said, they decoy very well when the lines are in motion, especially the common eiders in massive flocks. We had great decoying from land as well, but the birds loved that appearance of feeding decoys so to speak. After all the use of decoys or really even specifically targeting the Kings is very new in Greenland.

Resident hunters still hunt for market, so they target massive massive flocks of commons and murres rather than the modest size King eider flocks. The use of decoys for market hunting is, well, impractical and they'll just open skiff gun into the big flocks of commons to fill the market when needed. It doesn't seem to educate them to boats any, because the commons especially decoy like champions (albeit lacking any grace to their landing). There is an immense population of commons there.
 
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I went to St Paul in 2019 King Eider hunting. I have 2 in the freezer, and 2 at the preservationist... I would not want t to ability to shoot 8... like in Greenland...that is too big of a taxidermy bill.. I bet all of them do not get mounted. I would like a hen though... poor shot selection is why I don't have one...shot drakes... and it was too late by the time I decided that I wanted a hen.
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Phil Nowack said:
I went to St Paul in 2019 King Eider hunting. I have 2 in the freezer, and 2 at the preservationist... I would not want t to ability to shoot 8... like in Greenland...that is too big of a taxidermy bill.. I bet all of them do not get mounted. I would like a hen though... poor shot selection is why I don't have one...shot drakes... and it was too late by the time I decided that I wanted a hen.

Awesome! I am looking forward to doing it one day on St Paul, probably not until 2024. Cold Bay and Adak are in the cards first as far as Alaska trips go for me. The birds that we didn't bring home for taxidermy made an amazing meal the last day in camp at a local restaurant. I have a 5 king courtship mount with a nice hen in progress as we speak. Taxidermy bill is going to be rather unpleasant this year LOL.






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