Sink boxes?

JWF III

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Hey everybody, I'm relatively new to the site. Been around for a while but this is my first post. I have a question about sinkboxes. I want to build a very low profile layout boat, but I don't want to make it so low that it would be classified as a sinkbox. Does anybody know the USFWS definition of a sinkbox? I've looked thru their website and didn't come up with anything. Is there a certain height it must be out of the water? Or anything similar to that that would give me a cut and dry definition if it's legal or not?

Thanks in advance.
 
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"from or by means, aid, or use of a sinkbox or any other type of low floating device having a depression affording the hunter a means of concealment beneath the surface of the water"...
section 20.21-HUNTING METHODS...

Thats it...thats all they say....When I've asked in the past the Fed Guys say they interpret that as "the entire body being concealed below the waterline" but I've heard other people say that they've been advised that a certain percentage of the body, (this number is never the same and I've never seen it in print anywhere), must be above the water line.....

This makes sense to me because imagine the difficulty that layout boat mfg's would have making a boat that insured that a "certain %" of a hunters body was above water level....every wt. of user would have to have a different boat in that case, (assuming you wanted the boat to perform the way a layout boat should--chines at water level so there is no wave slap). Make the boat so that a big person would be at that magic % and a little guy would be sticking out of the water like a sore thumb. Reverse that so a little guy would be at theh correct % and a big guy in the same boat would be too deep.....

If I was building something I'd want the FEDERAL GUY that handled my area to see the plans and say "I'm good with that" before I hunted out of it...

Steve
 
I agree with Steve, check with local Fed warden and possibly state warden, depending on your state law. Standing up in a boat has your foot below the surface and sitting in a sink box with your head above the water surface would not be total concealment, so some where in the middle is the "secret" percentage.

Dave what does that towable layout weigh? It will still need lifted in an out of a tender boat for trailering for many and I am curious. Thanks. Mike
 
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