4 stroke suzuki?

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Gene

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My two storoke motor has gone belly up. I have been looking around mainly at the Yamaha's, Mercury's and Tohutsu/Nissan, They seem to be the closest to my price range. I have found what appears to be a realatively good deal on a new suzuki 4 stroke and am thinking about pulling the trigger so to speak. Anyone have any good or bad experiences with suzuki motors? The one I am looking at is a 15hp manual start.

Thanks, Gene
 
I had a suzuki 25 2 stroke that was teriffic.

Don't let local parts availability bother you - Brown's Point Marina is only a few clicks on the internet or a phone call away.
 
I have a 50 horse suzuki 2000 on my dw17 no problems. I agree that Browns Point Marine is great. They have parts diagrams on line.
 
Thanks guys for the input. I have not yet pulled the trigger though I am finding that the largest problem seems to be access to a dealer and parts. But those that have a suzuki seem to feel they are a great product.

Marty,

You said you have a yamaha, I see in your picture you have a BBSB. Do you run a yamaha on it? If so what size and is it a 2 stroke or 4? I would be placing the new motor on my BBSB. It is 12' with a rather shallow rocker. The thing that caught my eye on the suzuki's was there 97lb dry weight. Thats only 17lbs over my current 2stroke. If I switch to a 3gal fuel tank I will be saving 18lbs, also my tanks current location is in the rear, I will be moving it to the front.

Thanks, Gene
 
I've got a 2003 15 manual tha I've been using hard for a few years now an am very happy with it. It relpaced a Honda 15 and I noticed right away the Suzuki ran quieter and started better in cold weather. I've only had to replace one part so far, and I bought it online. Its a great motor to me.


Mike
 
Gene,

Where the weight is, is much more important that how much. If you switch to a 3 gallon can you can always throw in an extra can on long or unknown distance trips. You may find that keeping the 6 gallon up front will balance the additional motor weight better than 3 gallons. I run two six gallon cans on my 14TDB and in my 16 starcraft. They have similiar range, which is 4X a long hunting trip for me. But, it allows my memory a little wiggle room for remembering to fuel up. I remember one trip across the bay I should have waited out, ran about 4 gallons out going 1 1/2 miles. Not an experience I want to repeat, up the wave, down the wave, up the wave... I had to keep the throttle to her to keep the nose up and minimize the torpedo effect.

Good luck on your motor search. I wouldn't give up on the old one unless it's hurt worse than we talked about. If it only needs the top end rebuilt it sure would make a nice back up!

Best wishes,
Gene Jr.
 
I have had a Suzuki 15 2 stroke for a number of years and it has been a great engine but it is just not big enough for my 16 ft layout boat with a full load. I am on the prowl for a new Yamaha 25 2 stroke which apparently only weighs 105 lbs and should do the job nicely. Hard to find a lightweight 25 these days. Need something I can wrestle myself.
 
Gene JR,

You and I are once again on the same idea, that is what I was going to try. I figured I would see how the 3 gal in front balances the boat and then add another 3 gal can to switch out. With my weight capacity I don't want to carry more than 6 gallons. It is supprising how much all the various equipments adds up to for weight.

I am a little worried about rebuilding my 2 stroke. I have heard this story from a couple marine mechanics, let me know if anyone else has heard this.

The government, in order to limit polution is adding 10% alcohol to our gasoline. This hit my area just this summer. They are currently trying to go up to a 15% alcohol ratio. This will make our fuel burn cleaner. Though for us old 2 stroke owners it is bad news. Alcohol in the fuel does not allow for a good saturation of your fuel/oil mixture, it wants to seperate them. Therefore when in your 2 stroke engine, especially an older two stroke (The newer two strokes have thing such as chrome line pistons and harder steel sleves, again so I am told) your cylinder is not properly lubricated. I just found out one of my neighbors burned up his older 2 stroke this summer and was told something similar. I do infact remember when I was mixing oil into my gas this winter I saw something out of the ordinary but thought nothing of it. When I have mixed my fuel in years past. I dumped the oil into the container of gas and by the time the oil was half way to the bottom of the can it was spreading out, you know, it looked more like a cloud of oil. When I was mixing this year the oil went into the gas like an italian salad, like oil and vinegar. Then sat at the bottom until I shook the container. Just an observation but after I was told about this alcohol addative it made me think. I would love to continue to use my old Johnson or even as a back up but I am hesitant to rebuild until I find more info about this. Maybe I am being fed a story, what do you guys think?
 
Gene,

All sounds about right from what I've heard. I can say your right about the alchohol added to the fuel, beyond that it's just consistent with what I've heard. There are additives out there to add to the fuel to counteract the ethanol. My father in law uses it in all his boat fuel, new and old motors, can't hurt anything but the pocketbook! If I find out what it is I'll pass the name on to you. Personally, I'd still rebuild the old one, even if not for regular use. I hate to see another one disappear.

When I was involved with racing go-karts we ran the 4 cycles on ethanol and used the best pump gas we could buy for the 2 cycles, back then it was sunoco, may still be but if the ethanol additive is mandatory then it's in everything. I know where I get my fuel it is posted as having ethanol in it (NOT E85).

Gene Jr.
 
I would be very interested in the addative he uses. I agree, it would be nice to have a backup motor. Since most marine shops keep limited hours during the winter it would be nice to have an extra motor sitting handy should something happen.

Thanks, Gene
 
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