hi jim, ive made a bunch of divers out of cedar utility poles. split them as even as you can, flip a half up on edge and run through the saw with a jig to make bottom smooth. then cut out top view and begin shaping. makes good divers but youll have a hard time getting puddle ducks out of them. i just made simple bobtail divers or "solid" tail divers. honestly its alot of work, i stockpiled a bunch of it but ended up getting rid of it. best, mark