Canada/Mexico/Argentina Questions

Ben Gallop

Ben Gallop

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Just doing a little research... and no, I am not weighing the responses to these questions for determining where to go on a trip :)

Can anyone confirm that Canada follows similar standards as the U.S. with regard to requiring steel or other non-toxic shot for hunting waterfowl?

How about that Canada has limits, albeit more liberal than the U.S., on the number of waterfowl that can be taken daily or in possession similar to the U.S.?

Any species of waterfowl in Canada with no limits?

Any place in Canada where you can shoot lead for waterfowl?

How about Mexico/Argentina with the same questions?

Thanks,

-Ben
 
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Yes Canada requires Non-toxic shot, has daily limits and possession limits similar to the US. Not aware of lead shot being legal anywhere in Canada nor any birds with no limits.

The only thing I know about Argentina and Mexico is what I see on TV hunting shows and limits must be very liberal or non existent. Lead shot is common in both countries from what I understand.
 
if you see yourself as ANYTHING other than a stone cold killer of waterfowl why would you want to shoot waterfowl ANYWHERE with lead?

Would lead shot in Canada, Mexico or Argentina NOT kill not only the birds that ingest the lead but also the redators that prey on the lost cripples?

Just curious.

Steve
 
For the sake of argument Steve....and you know that's what you live for....I didn't see anywhere in his post stating that he wanted to use lead.
 
I did "assume" that that was one of the things he was interested in....he stated that he was researching a trip.....and then asked was "lead" shootable in the three specific locations he was interested in.....

As you state maybe I'm over thinking his post but if he's going on a trip, and he wants to know if lead is legal, then, well.....see my question.....

Steve
 
" Just doing a little research... and no, I am not weighing the responses to these questions for determining where to go on a trip :)"

HUH???
 
I am not going on a trip (unfortunately) and I have no desire to shoot lead or over the limit. I am merely trying to do some research to refute someone's statements and to solve some mysterys which are completely unrelated to me or anyone I know. These questions were asked for serious purposes and I have no vested personal interest in the answers. Sorry, I thought I was somewhat clear on that in my initial post.

That being said, Steve, I still shoot steel rather than any of the cool other non-toxics because I miss just as well with whatever I am shooting and steel costs me less. :)

-Ben
 
Ben, I think that little smiley you added tossed Steve a curve. Up until a couple years ago, you could use lead on Indian reservations and the Indians could use it anywhere..now they can't. As for limits, they aren't any better than Washington States anywhere in North America...unless you are an Indian. Don't know about South America but think some of the countries may be part of the No Tox treaty.
 
and for proving Lee correct that my response was for no other reason than to be argumentative....

I'm not "sure" what the actual law is in Mexico regarding non-toxic shot in Mexico but I can tell you from both personal experience there and from talking to people that have been more recently than myself that lead is still being shot there, if not exclusively, then almost so.....there are "limits" there as well but experience again says that adherance to those limits is, "in most cases", up to the outfitter and there is a lot of "winking, nodding, and paying off of the officials" in some locations...

I've never heardd anything about anything but lead in South America. Limits there are set by the individual outfitters and estancia's and it would at least "appear" that many of them have realized that the resource is not unlimited, that shooting it as such has been detrimental to not only the birds but their livelihood and as a result many of the outfitters/estancias are now imposing either bird or shell limits on their guests....I've not been there but have talked with several people that have been to several different outfitters and that seems to be what is happening there....

Steve
 
How about snow geese in Canada? I would guess the limits are very liberal as they are here, but they aren't unlimited are they?

Thanks,

-Ben
 
It's my understanding that the only bird covered by the North American Migratory Bird Treaty without a limit is the crow. States are allowed to set a 120 day season at their discretion provided it does not coincide with the prime nesting season.
 
I was in Sask in Sept. 8 ducks, 8 dark geese, and 15 white geese. I believe that Ontario is 5 dark geese.
The only limits that I know of being enforced in Mexico is to bring birds back into the US, but you are also allowed to have two licenses.
 
We were in Manitoba last fall but I don't remember which zone we were in. Anyway, the limit on Snow Geese was 20 per day but the possession limit was 80. We shot a bunch but never came close to our limit. Best day was 30+ for three guys.
 
Saskatchewan is 20 lights/per day with 60 possession for both spring and fall seasons, darks are 8/day for non-residents and I think 10/day for residents. Ducks are 8/day with a pintail limit of 3/day.
 
Cause I certainly would have lost. I could have sworn that the regs said 4 until I went back and looked. That makes twice just TODAY that I was wrong. I'm going to have to be real, real good the rest of the year.
 
http://www.cws-scf.ec.gc.ca/publications/reg/index_e.cfm

Its all there when you have the time.

Here it is 8 ducks, 5 geese X 3 for possession.

North of the Arctic Circle it is 25 ducks, 15 geese, no possession limit.

Mike
 
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