Great South Bay Broadbill Hunt

Steve Sanford

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All~

You may recall that I have been working with retired DU rep Craig Kessler and a bunch of other Long Island gunners on a project that will recount a certain type of gunning at the spring show of the Long Island Decoy Collectors Association in early March (Saturday, March 7 in Hauppauge). We have been meeting with many veteran gunners, looking at photos, gear and boats, and preparing for a display called When the Broadbill was King on Great South Bay – that era from 1935 – when batteries were finally banned and were replaced by open bay "scooter rigs" – until 1975 or so.



In addition to all the photos and gear, we are also putting together a "film" (not sure what to call digital motion pictures....) that will include a bunch of interviews and also a couple of hunts from existing big rigs. So, Tuesday morning, we met with guide Red Oster and a few others to record all the work involved in thisstyle of gunning. We had a fine day with all on board – and Craig and I learned lots from our vidoegrapher extraordinaire – Anthony Babich. Anthony is another of my many great "finds" on duckboats.net. I have known his uncle for many years but only through duckboats did I learn of the talented nephew.



Anthony was the official photographer/videographer during the hunt. I brought my camera along and tried to stay out of his way. These photos are mine. I look foreard to seeing all of Anthony's work – from his armada of video equipment.


We all assembled on the dock in the pre-dawn – and then sailed out onto Great South Bay to the melodies of the rumbling exhaust. Craig's and my "job" was to make sure that the operation was documented for posterity. Of course, Anthony did all of the real work. I guess Craig and I would be called "producers".....

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The classic rig involves 3 vessels, each with its own role. The big tender gets everything and everybody out to the gunning grounds – and also serves as a nice home – warm, dry and well-fed – for the "spectators".
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The decoys are stored in and handled from a stool boat. Compartments keep the trawls from tangling.
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The actual gunning boat is a "scooter" – sort of what we call a layout boat hereabouts. (Neither Craig nor I had ever heard the term "layout boat" while growing up.) Red's rig uses a sweet little 2-man scooter. It is stored on the big flat afterdeck until ready for use.
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That's a padded "safety stick" across the cockpit - to keep muzzles up out of harm's way. I will be sewing a nice grey lap canvas for Red before next season.

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Red and his brother Steve set the rig. We hunted over about 80 Broadbill and 20 Brant stool. Most were trawls supplemented with a dozen or so singles.


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A special aspect of this hunt was that the paying "sports" were both longtime friends and participants in the "Broadbill-King" project. Mike Marran and his son Michael were the guests – along with Mike's Chessie Daisy. Both have spent many years in pursuit of Broadbill on this bay, often from Mike's own scooter rig. Also, Mike is a Past President of the South Shore Waterfowlers Association.
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It is not the "usual" practice to have a retriever in the scooter, but – Mike had some compelling reasons and we were all happy to see that everything worked out very well. Note that Daisy has donned the requisite Grey along with the rest of the crew.




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Winds were "light and variable" - but we did get a bit of snow to help matters
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Times change – and so the current limit on Broadbill is 2 per day. We shot our Broadbill limits and also took a few Brant.
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No - this is not a Pete Revicki decoy - this is the real thing.



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Anthony was sure to capture every aspect of the hunt in electrons....
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Another good day at "work"....



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All the best,
SJS
 
What tremendous story and well documented with wonderful photos. This was wonderful, Steve. Thanks so much. One of my favorite shots was of the close up of the broadbill's feathers.

Made me wonder how long it was after the colonies were started that gunning for ducks began?
Al
 
Nice pics Steve. Remember the extended seasons for broadbill years ago with liberal limits... Hunted with a few crews out east in Shinnecock and Mecox. No big tenders, but 2/3 sharpies or garvies. Those were the days...
 
Steve thanks so much for sharing your photos. The site of the Captree bridge brings back many memories of past hunts with my father and his tales of hunting in his youth. Though we did not hunt out of a boat much I vividly remember the masses of broadbill that used to be around and the extra added season for just hunting them. Recently i have been seeing a large raft of them forming and gathering in Bellport. So I dragged out from the attic my broadbill decoys to try and see if I could entice them to stop by, no luck yet. Look forward to seeing your work at the show in March.
 
Thanks for sharing Steve, that is way cool. It really shows the heart of a waterfowler to go through all of that work to "only" be able to shoot 2 birds. Most of the modern day guys would never bother, but thats what sets the members of this site apart. I've never seen a 3 boat deal, we always use two (tender/layout), that "Stool" boat is awesome. I think I need one....
 
Steve, Love the bow sprit..... yours??? Looks like a you guys had a great day. Nice photos. The tender is interesting. Sice its compartmentalized does it have an application in the off season?

Phil
 
Neat visuals, Steve--Used to enjoy BSing with Larry Udell about the Bills years ago. Have not seen him for a number of years now.
Stay Warm
 
Very nice documentation of your hunt, the gear and its deployment. Being a more recent broadbill hunter from the left coast its interesting to see the rig being deployed. I've often thought about a larger tender. I have tons of questions about anchoring the scoter in tidal water. It looks like you have an eye way under the bow but I don't see a yoke or anchor line decoy/float. Is that correct? Then following anchor line comes right up to the cockpit coaming. That would make it easy to tend while seated but provides shadows or visual clues for approaching birds. Any downside to that? Do you add extra weight in the foot area in order to get the down attitude?
 
Very nice story!! The final product will be amazing I am sure.
We do it a bit different down here on Barnegat Bay, but this brought back memories of the point system and the "special" broadbill season. I cut my teeth on this type of gunning with my dad showing the ropes. As a boy in the mid 70's, sitting in a shack with the baymen, them taking pulls off their flasks around the stove after a hunt as they told stories about the "old" days.
Nicely done!!
 
we used to do a similar hunt with a big tender, layout for broadbills.

would always anchor the tender up wind of the layout so the guy in the boat laying on his back, could smell the coffee and bacon cooking in the tender boat.

lots of good times
 
Great stuff Steve! Love the pics, the story and the use of historical boats and tactics. Keep up the good work brother and, I appreciate your willingness to share and educate.

Godspeed on the broadwater! Pat
 
My only experience hunting New York was a Broadbill shoot with Manhattan as the back drop...many years ago....looks like I need to add a more traditional Broadbill shoot to my East Coast tour when I do that one...
As always Steve "BEAUTIFULLY DONE"...


Steve
 
Steve:
As always, great photos. With the aid of Greg K. a great person & friend I know your presentation with be great. Very much looking forward to the "Decoy Show" & look forward to seeing everyone. Thanks for sharing your photos.
 
Steve, thanks for the GSB memories. I spent many a winter clamming and eeling on the bay, spent almost every winter working out of Bayshore. I have one of Red's cards in my rolodex, have been tempted to go up there and hire him for a couple of days. I guess I just have too much work still to do in my old bones, plus hunting here in Florida isnt half bad. I cant tell from the pictures, are you east or west of the bridge? Rich
 
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