Hail call Steve Sanford, need paint information!

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Jake Passmore

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Steve,
I've seen several of your rehabs etc, in your knowledge of behr paint, could you provide your best guess as to what color a grayish coot body would be?

Thanks!!
 
Was going to PM on same topic, but since it is a new thread here goes. I bought a used roy boat year and it was painted the OD green. Paint is beginning to flake and after this season, I am going to repaint. My thought was to go with a base of darker brown, overlay with a pattern of lighter "dead grass" color. seems it would blend better in the salt marsh. Why do all the boats I see always start with the OD?
 
Good morning, Jake~

It's been a long time since I painted any coot stool - made a set of shadows 35 or so years ago.

And, there is the question of how fancy you want to get. If I had to pick one body color, I would go with a warm, dark grey: Behr Intellectual (PPU 18-19)

If you want to add some depth/shading, I'd use Behr Elephant Skin (PPU 18-16) for lighter areas.

If you want to go a bit browner, you could use Behr Fedora (S-H-740) or - if you have an Ace hardware closer to you -Clark + Kensington Caledonia are both good muddy browns, useful for Hen Broadbill, Canada Goose and a bunch of other species.

I would enjoy hearing from others who have more experience than I painting "grey coot".

Hope this helps,

SJS
 
Rich~

Will you be using any grass or brush on your boat?

I have always put thatch on any boat that I wanted to hide in or near a marsh. I trust painted camouflage for open water (layout boat) hunting - but only if it's boldly contrasting and serves to break up (visually) the apparent shape of the boat. This boat was made for open water - but it would also gun next to salt marsh well IF you threw some wrack (dead plant matter from the high tide line) over it once you were in place.


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I have seen lots of different base colors on Long Island grassboats. Some try to match the color of the dark (almost black) mud beneath the Cordgrass where they hide. The thatch (Salt Hay or Cordgrass) contrasts starkly with it. Others try to match the hues and tones of the thatch itself. Almost every grassboat at the SSWA Duckboat Show this past weekend had a "dead grass" coat of paint beneath their Salt Hay thatch.

I have used many different brands and many different colors over the years, but lean toward the olive/dead grass family of colors. I have used Parkers Marsh Grass for many years and am trying Lou Tisch's FME # 28 - Dead Grass Green - for the first time on Bill Abbate's South Bay. I am sure it will hide and hunt very well once it's grassed.

I would hesitate to rely on a camouflage paint scheme on a duckboat if it had lots of fine detail but was generally uniform in appearance overall. The effects of light are so strong that even boldly patterned camo on a flat surface disappears from many angles. Nothing compares with the 3D hiding ability of thatch or brush.

Hope this helps,

SJS
 
Rich~

Will you be using any grass or brush on your boat?

I have always put thatch on any boat that I wanted to hide in or near a marsh. I trust painted camouflage for open water (layout boat) hunting - but only if it's boldly contrasting and serves to break up (visually) the apparent shape of the boat. This boat was made for open water - but it would also gun next to salt marsh well IF you threw some wrack (dead plant matter from the high tide line) over it once you were in place.


51%20Gilgo%20Gunboat%20-%20cowling%20lap%20cover%20stripes_zps2zyfwbau.jpg







I have seen lots of different base colors on Long Island grassboats. Some try to match the color of the dark (almost black) mud beneath the Cordgrass where they hide. The thatch (Salt Hay or Cordgrass) contrasts starkly with it. Others try to match the hues and tones of the thatch itself. Almost every grassboat at the SSWA Duckboat Show this past weekend had a "dead grass" coat of paint beneath their Salt Hay thatch.

I have used many different brands and many different colors over the years, but lean toward the olive/dead grass family of colors. I have used Parkers Marsh Grass for many years and am trying Lou Tisch's FME # 28 - Dead Grass Green - for the first time on Bill Abbate's South Bay. I am sure it will hide and hunt very well once it's grassed.

I would hesitate to rely on a camouflage paint scheme on a duckboat if it had lots of fine detail but was generally uniform in appearance overall. The effects of light are so strong that even boldly patterned camo on a flat surface disappears from many angles. Nothing compares with the 3D hiding ability of thatch or brush.

Hope this helps,

SJS
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Very interesting paint scheme on the boat. I thought it would be better to blend in but you're saying its better to have a stark contrast because it breaks up what we would otherwise see as a boat....

That's very different from how I have ever viewed camouflage. Gives me something to think about.

Thanks !
 
First, I want to apologize to OP for a thread hijack. I saw Sandford and paint, didnt read further, and jumped to boat, mostly because of the south bay spa thread which I've been following.
Yes, going to grass it up. Eventually, grass blows off, holes open etc and seems like having a base more in the browns would be better for my hunting area. I think I am going to do like your foto and go with a large format pattern, see how it looks after grassing. And change it if I hate it later. :)
I appreciate your help as a (relatively) new hunter, just trying to bend the learning curve a little lower.
 
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