Last years restoration...continued

[John L]

Does anyone know who the builder of this boat may have been? I picked it up in Patchogue New York at the end of last season. The owner said he did not know the builder and could not tell me anything about it.
It looks like a great boat just needs some TLC, well maybe alot of TLC. I just started the restoration today and plan on having it done in two weeks.
Here are some before photos

First day of restoration:
Hardest part was striping out the 5200 on the keel, great stuff unless you want to take something apart. Almost the whole day just to get that done

For tomorrow I hope to get the motor mount removed and the whole hull sanded down to bare fiberglass

 

[Ray]

It has lines similar to a Glen-L duck boat. Is it a moulded hull? Hard to tell from the photos.

 

[John L]

Ray,

It's glass over wood. Looks very well built and I'm sure alot of thought went into this build. Just looks like the last owner did not do much to keep her up.
I used it a few times last season but then the seam along the aft stbd side of the keel and hull opened up and I began to take on water....in the photos you can see the leaks must have been there for a while and were caulked / siliconed. What looks like three times. 5200, then 2 other attempts with silicone.
I thought about just doing a quick repair and decided that it was a nice enough boat to do a restoration. Once I'm done repairing some ribs and re-glassing the whole boat. She will be around for another twenty or thirty years.

 

[w.gammill]

John,
I don't know the builder either, however I really like the lines of that boat.
Good luck in the restoration and I would like to see pics as you go along and
finish it.
Best,
WG

 

[Dave E]

Two weeks?!!?! If you work like me, it will take 2 months.

Seriously, it looks like a fun project.

 

[John L]

I will post more photos as we go. I'm hopefull that with a few late nights in the shop, I can get it done in time.

 

[John L]

Day 2
I made some progress today and got the motor mount off and much to my surprise the transom was pretty solid. I removed the skin that was not holding, due to some moisture behind it and ground away till I had good glass on the wood.

I reworked the keel and removed to old bow eye that was installed using a large toggle and eye bolt.

I have the lamps on it tonight to dry thing out and hope to get the hull down to bare glass tomorrow if the weather holds up. If not plan B is to make the new motor mount.

 

[Will B]

john, looks like a southbay duckboat. they are located on long island

 

[John L]

Bob B,
Your correct. The fiberglass did stop at the skeg and the joint did fail. Three times , judging from the three different colored silicones and 5200 that were used to do a halfa$$ed repair.


Bill,
It is not a South Bay Duckboat although they are made on LI. We also run a South Bay boat. They are all fiberglass, have more of a flat bottom and have sponsons. They are a good shallow water boat but they can also be a very wet boat if there is a chop. Here are some photos of the South Bay boat.

PS- Don't tell Tod that my friend uses spinners, he thinks they are nasty.....only kidding Tod

 

[John L]

Got back to work on the boat today. I sanded alot of the hull and was plesently surprised to find the fiberglass in good shape. So, no need to totaly re-glass the entire hull. I set a strip of Mohogany in place where the skeg had been, started to fill a hole where the make shift bow eye was and filled along the transom where it was a little soft by the motor mount.
I'll get back on it tomorrow to do some more fillng and grinding before I lay up the fiberglass matting along the keel.

 

[Eric Dellamater]

looks good.

What size motor are you looking to put on that when you are done?

Just curious, your ply at the edges of the skeg look delaminated, I see you are just applying more epoxy and glass, was there any thought to putting in a scarf or a "dutchman" of sorts to remove that weak area?

Good luck.

 

[Matt_n_Barb]

Hi to the guy that is restoring the boat.

When restoring a boat or any wood item that has been severely exposed to the elements I like to remove all the damaged wood, rot and nasty stuff and then seal everything with a product called Smiths CPES. I paint the stuff on multiple times until it will not take any more product. This stops the rot and mold, plus seals the wood and allows other epoxy products to bond well to the stabilized wood.

You can search the net for the product or something similar. It isn't exactly cheap stuff but it does a very good job.

Best Wishes in the restore and wishing you all the happiest stuffing of yourself with the turkey,,,,,,

Matt

 

[John L]

Eric,
I plan on using a 9.9 or 15hp outboard.
The delamination looks worse than it actually is. There is still a fair amount of good wood still there. I used some chopped fiberglass as a filler. I'm not sure of the weight but I'll be using a heavy stitched woven fabric with triaxial backing to lay down the length of the of the boat from bow to stern along the keel and wrap it over the transom onto the aft deck. It will probably be over kill but I have a lot of this in the shop and it should do the job well.

Matt,
I have never used Smiths CPES. I did check on line to see what it is and it looks like it would work but I am now past that stage. I'll keep it in mind for the next time.

Thanks

 

[John L]

Got back to glassing the hull bottom today. I ended up not using the heavy matting and went with 3 layers of biaxial. Also got the transom done. Next will be to get the keelson on, flip it over to finish up the topside. Then make a new motor mount.

 

[Matt_n_Barb]

Well....oh my and all that......mount up a twin 50 on that boat and give her that mean duck killing look.....now that it look like she is strong and water tight....

Matt

 

[John L]

The Mohogany keelson is on and was secured in place for the night

Gave it a finish coat of epoxy and also made the motor mount out of 3 pieces of 3/4" plywood epoxyed together. Tomorrow, (yea right) I'll finish up on glassing the motor mount and hopefully get the bottom and sides of the hull primed and painted so I can flip her over on Wednesday.

Sorry for the poor picture quality. I was using my phones camera. With any luck she will see the water this weekend.

 

[John L]

Made some more progress today. Got the hull primed in two part epoxy primer and should be getting the first coat of paint in the morning.

Finished glassing the motor mount, it's is on the blue drum on the left

 

[ScottCK]

Sorry for getting off topic - but does it not look like a persons face / head next to the motor in this photo. Maybe it is a person laying on the back of the boat but I just cant make out the body.

 

[John Robinson]

Sorry for getting off topic - but does it not look like a persons face / head next to the motor in this photo. Maybe it is a person laying on the back of the boat but I just cant make out the body.

Wow, very creepy indeed. Now I'm going to have nightmares.

JR

 

[John L]

I never noticed that before. It looks like the Grim Reeper is hanging out on the boat