Mills Fleet Farm open letter on firearms

Ron Schuna

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This video has been put together by Mills Fleet Farm regarding the current proposed gun control legislation.. For those that don't know...Fleet Farm is a store with just about everything except groceries....Hardware, Sporting Goods, housewares, clothing etc. Great firearms dept. I think it is great how they have stepped forward on this issue.. Please watch and share if you're on Facebook or any other forums..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0o7YgiTFm4


Thanks,
Ron
 
Ron,

Thanks for sharing. I was really impressed and right on target! Wish they'd put a store and range here in the Quadcities.
 
I liked it, but the point could be better made with a pump shotgun. I am not sure that showing off the deadly force of a semi-auto with 00 buckshot helps further the cause.
 
I did have to object to the use of buck shot through the "duck gun" and the correlation he was trying to make.

that aside, I get his point and applaud Fleet Farms efforts to continue to support the 2nd amendment.

it does show that a 12g should be sitting by the night stand and not your 9mm or 40 or 45 cal.
 
He used the term Duck Gun to make a point to his law maker / representative that is pro gun but has turned his coat on the sporting rifle enthusiast saying something like...all I need is my duck gun and see no need for a rifle with large capacity magazine.
 
I think he made his point very well. I always liked their gun departments. I think that is a business worth supporting.
 
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I think the Mills Fleet Farm open letter just misses the point. If shotguns were being used in school shootings, legislators would be talking about regulating shotguns.

Also, arguing that there is really no relevant distinctions to be made among various types of firearms is a tactic that may come back to bite gun owners.

Rick
 
I have been saying since Aurora, that my SBE with an extended tube and OO buck could have done more damage than that idiot did... While it maybe a dangerous argument, it is bonding. Far to many people think 2A is about hunting. It is NOT...BUT there are MANY liberals that hunt. I actually think getting the gun grabbers to go for ALL of them.. or semi auto or pump shotguns will get these other hunters to open their eyes and realize that they will go for everything...even if it is in steps...

On that topic, any form of registration is the beginning....
 
Ron,

Thanks for sharing. I was really impressed and right on target! Wish they'd put a store and range here in the Quadcities.

Ed you know you would have to cross the river to get there.
 
On that topic, any form of registration is the beginning....


I thought all legally purchased guns were registered. I mean, don't we all fill out paperwork with our names and addresses included?
 
I have been saying since Aurora, that my SBE with an extended tube and OO buck could have done more damage than that idiot did... While it maybe a dangerous argument, it is bonding. Far to many people think 2A is about hunting. It is NOT...BUT there are MANY liberals that hunt. I actually think getting the gun grabbers to go for ALL of them.. or semi auto or pump shotguns will get these other hunters to open their eyes and realize that they will go for everything...even if it is in steps...

On that topic, any form of registration is the beginning....

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Benelli shotguns are in fact what many gun grabbers do call "assault weapons". They were first intended for and are still widely used by military and swat teams. Anyone who has seen Tom Knapp shoot 9 rounds in two seconds knows how fast they can be fired. There are also reloaders for them that push rounds in as fast as any magazine can be changed.

The bill the witch from CA is pushing would outlaw many turkey hunting shotguns with pistol grips. They want all guns outlawed and will use any tragedy they can.
They don't really care what they look like or how they function it only matters to them that it goes bang.

People who are left to believe they are overly entitled or are devoid of a conscious will find a way. There have been mass stabbings in China recently, it can be done with many weapons.

Between the drug problems people seem to overlook now days (both illegal and legal) and the people with sociopathic behavior that are passed off as just being quiet or misunderstood it is amazing our crime rates have been dropping like they have been... even after the other ban sunset and everyone went nuts buying ARs every time something happened.

The 2nd Amendment is about protecting ourselves from other people and a tyrannical government, not for hunting. Hunting can be stopped tomorrow. I'm pretty sure the way were are headed it will look like european hunting soon anyways.
We like to think of our world as so modern that guns serve no purpose as useful protection form tyranny. But 100 years ago people thought that was modern, two thousand years ago Rome thought that was the modern world. Even before that the Egyptians believed they were as civilized as humans could be. In a hundred years people will change and if the fight is given up now then they will never know the freedoms we do. We can see them eroding from other constitutional rights that nobody would have dreamed possible just a few decades ago.

My one and only $.02 on this subject,
Tim
 
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Ron,

Thanks for sharing. I was really impressed and right on target! Wish they'd put a store and range here in the Quadcities.

Ed you know you would have to cross the river to get there.


Mike,

Illinois is broken with NO way to fix it! The wheels have been turning and I may live right down the street if they should come.
 
The paperwork we fill out at the gun dealer doesn't go anywhere. The FFL must hold on to it for 15 years, but that is as far as it goes right now. The feds monitor the # of background checks...possibly even WHO is getting them, but do not know if you actually bought anything...
 
The paperwork we fill out at the gun dealer doesn't go anywhere. The FFL must hold on to it for 15 years, but that is as far as it goes right now. The feds monitor the # of background checks...possibly even WHO is getting them, but do not know if you actually bought anything...


You don't actually believe this do you Phil? Why would anyone submit to a FFL background check if they weren't buying a gun? It isn't too hard for the government to know, or make a reasonable guess that if you went through a background check, you purchased a gun. At lease today I can deny that I ever did purchase a gun after having a background check.

However, if it made a requirement to register all your guns, the I will get worried. I hear talk of a huge fine impossed if you are caught with an unregistered gun in your possession - ie out hunting. Registration is the first step down the road towards confiscation. Can't confiscate anything if you don't know where they are.

Mark W
 
Actually, Mark, I do... 3 of my friends have FFL and are active dealers... All 3 say this. I have a tin hat..but that big of one...
 
The paperwork we fill out at the gun dealer doesn't go anywhere. The FFL must hold on to it for 15 years, but that is as far as it goes right now. The feds monitor the # of background checks...possibly even WHO is getting them, but do not know if you actually bought anything...


I heard (although the source wasn't cited so it's hearsay) that 88,000 felons filed for a gun purchase in 2012 (nobody said they were smart) but only 44 were arrested and went to trial. It states right on the 4437 form that faselly filling out the form is a felony. Why weren't all 88,000 arrested and brought to trial? That potentially left 87,956 felons that wanted guns the opportunity to buy guns from a pawnshop, gun show or private individual. There are those folks that will not like what I say and argue privacy issues or this, that and the other but I don't have a problem with background checks and as far as a firearm registration process now I'm learning that is already done for the most part by the firearms dealer where you bought your gun from when you filled out the 4473 form (edited, thanks Bill Perry). It won't find all 270,000,000 estimated firearms in this country but the government has been whittling away at this since 1927. It's been said these are scary times for law abiding gun owners.
 
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Actually, Mark, I do... 3 of my friends have FFL and are active dealers... All 3 say this. I have a tin hat..but that big of one...

Hey Phil -

I am not an informed person regarding FFL and background checks. All I kow, there is no data the government doesn't want. If there is a list somewhere, my bet is the governement has a copy.

So, when you fill out the background check form prior to buying a gun, that form goes to some governement agency who then provides back a "yah" or "nay" on you being able to purchase that gun. Doesn't that form have on it the make, model and serial number of the gun you intent to purchase (I really don't know, it has been a long time since I have purchased a new gun). Then after that info is submitted, I am assuming it is kept on file somewhere?

And after you buy the gun, no other info gets back to anyone that you actually purchased a gun? I really don't know so I am asking.

Thanks Phil.

Mark W
 
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