my dog needs a gun

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Scott Gentry

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Took the pup out yesterday and she did awesome on release site pheasant.( I know lots of you will scoff at realease birds) She retrieved and flushed her first bird Im absolutly overjoyed (too bad it was a hen or it would go too the wall)
Now my problem. I want a new upland/ pheasant/ duck gun im looking for an over and under I want somthing matte stainless and synthetic stock w a touch of class (maybe a lil inlay work you know somthing deserving of super puppy )Three gun stores in the area look at me like Im dumb but I know they are out there. Thanks in advance
 
Ruger is the only one I know of. I don't know if the true stainless is still in production. I think they switched to a "target gray" finish that looks like stainless.
 
On the Red-Label a warning... most everyone I've known well who had one in 12 guage has had problems with it (this is 4 or 5 people who bought one thinking they we buying a decent made gun). The problems are 2 fold. They shoot loose in a fairly short period of time. Mine was rebarreled by ruger because the action loosened up and came back with new barrels from them "within tolerances" (which means the action is loose from the factory). The other problem is the safety often comes back on between shots, I and at least 2 others have sent them back for this and they don't seem to be able to fix it. Doesn't happen with light loads, but slap a duck load in there and you will see it once in a while. Those problems may be fine for some, but they bill them as "premium" firearms. Problems like this don't seem to pop up in discussions of other similar priced mass produced doubles like brownings, or berettas.

T
 
Ditto on what the other guys said.

I think your only options for a stainless o/u is the ruger and you'd have to go used. The new ones come in a grey finish.

I had one of the stainless barreled red label o/us in 12 guage for a while, it was not a good fit for me. I never had a failure to function, but I never was able to swing it well. The gun is too much weight forward for me or something.

I covered mine with camo tape for duck hunting, I dont think stainless is all it is cracked up to be in a shotgun.

After that, I switched over to citoris and they just plain fit me better.

If you can get away from your need for a stainless gun, there are lots of dandy o/u shotguns out there.

For relatively short money you can get a nice De Haan with stainless sides and fairly fancy engraving, blued barrels. You'll pay about what you would (maybe a little less) than a good used one from a big name brand. They were just under $1000 last time I looked.

Charlie
 
A group of us bout 4 Red Labels..two of them doubled when shooting skeet. At the same time, others at the skeet range had troubles with theirs too. This was in the mid 90's.
 
Can't do it. You MUST have individual guns for each type of hunting. Probably a nice Browning Sweet 16 auto for upland....if you can find one. Maybe a BSS 20ga (I know where you can get one of those in awesome shape) Then a Citori 12 for pheasants (saw a nice deal here the other day, fixed chokes F/M, 28" tubes, nice and tight but some nasty gouges in one side of the stock, like the previous owner fell or something....$800), then your beater autoloader for waterfowl. No fun owning one shotgun that falls short trying to fit all pursuits. Good for ducks means too heavy for upland. Good for upland means it's too light and whippy for ducks.

Jim
 
My understanding is that Ruger is no longer manufacturing the target gray stainless barrels.

I've shouldered a couple of stainless/synthetic Rugers. I agree with Charlie, the balance point of the gun is too far forward.

I know of one individual who put a heavy recoil reducer in the butt stock to change the balance point and he loves the gun. That's really not an option for an upland gun, though.

I can't comment on the reliability.
 
De Haan shotguns.O/U and SxS in u2 and S2 are chromed in and out.Bright blue or matte finish.Oil finished stocks.single selective trigger and double triggers.Hi grade models available.Left hand stock configurations and top lever.Under 900 more for 28/410.Hi grades starting at 1595.I lay mine in wet grass to take a bird from my Britt.Give it a wipe at the end of the day and relax.They are weight forward slightly.Better swing and follow-through.A 20ga 28" 3in chambers and screw in chokes will take you from woodcock to geese.I have three;12,20 28.
 
i found an ugly excuse for a gun i think was made by stoeger that was over under "black" stocked and stainless barrels. looked like a toy. other then that i think traditions might make a synthetic stocked double but in camo, saw it in a gun shop a while back....looked like a traditions.

browning makes a nice simple citori in 3.5 12ga matte finish, that at least for me balances great and pulls up good. i think it comes with 26" or 28" barrels im not sure. beautiful gun tho, a little long for upland but should matter much if your shooting pheasants in the open. that would be my choice your looking at $1499

eddie
 
had a wood ruger RedLbl in the late 90's loved it could hit anything was purty, traded it for a boat one day. got a SS ruger for duckin a few years latter was TERRIBLE couldnt hit crap with it... not sure why but was nice looking but didnt fit me well.
 
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