Not the way I wanted to begin my hunt----

Al Hansen

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It was exactly 6:44AM, opening time when four gadwalls came flying into my spread. I stood up, aimed my Nova at the first one, squeezed the trigger, then pumped and to my surprise watched flames leap out of the gun where I put the shell in. Thank God and my guardian angel, because had the flames shot out of that shell towards my right eye, I wonder then what would have happened----that is but inches away.
Well, I watched the ducks fly away and I sat there in total amazement. Nothing like this has happened to me before----EVER! I have shot approximately 5,500 rounds at ducks with this Benelli Nova in the last eight years. Who knows maybe it was the shell, which was a 2 3/4 inch Fiocchi 7 shot steel dove load. Hell, I thought my day was over because I couldn't get this out of the gun.

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My next shell, which was a Federal 3 inch 6 shot was now jammed in there, also. Just at that time I remembered that I had put some tools in my Kawasaki Mule for "just in case". I opened up the trunk and found a screwdriver and pliers. With my head lamp helping I was able to move the 3 inch shell into the chamber and then extract the spent Fiocchi casing with my pliers. I then removed the three inch shell and checked the barrel. Thank goodness I did that because that plastic "wad?" was in the barrel about half way. Right in front of me, I had a perfect willow branch. I used that to poke back down this piece of plastic. I then checked out the gun with another shell to make sure it would fire properly. It worked, however, it was the first time I fired from the hip out towards the river with my eyes closed and my head turned.

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All I can say is that it was one frightening moment.

While I sat there working on my gun I had a lone GWT land in the decoys----damn!

Right after that things warmed up and duck hunting became fun again. Three mallards came in and I haven't done this in a long time. As I put the bead in front of the lone greenhead, I closed my eyes when I squeezed the trigger. Chili dashed out and retrieved one of the two hens in that group.

Next in came came two ducks---a drake gadwall and a drake widgeon. I dumped them and watched Chili do something she has never done before.

"I'M REALLY, REALLY, REALLY SMART" she seemed to be telling me. She grabbed the duck, then swam to the shore and began running towards me. As she got to the small boat, that I always put my ducks in when we leave to go home, she dropped the gaddie in the boat then came swaggering over to me. I was about another 30 feet away in my blind. I couldn't believe my eyes. I then sent her after the drake widgeon.

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About a half hour later a lone drake mallard was flying upstream and I was able to coax him back to the spread for another look.

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I hope I never have to experience something like I did at first light. That was frightening.
Al
 
Al,
Glad your ok. Having something like that happen would give me
the willies too. loved that pic of Chili after she dumped the bird
in your boat.
Best,
William
 
Al first of all I am glad you were not injured or did not have catastrophic gun failure. My Nova that I used to shoot for years was the only gun that I ever had shell malfuntions in. Fiocchi is the one brand I never had issues with though.
 
Yikes! Any chance that shell got damp on a previous hunt? I think I'd send a note to Fiocchi just in case they had a bad lot. Looks like the powder burned slowly instead of being under pressure and igniting all at once. I can imagine what those flames looked like coming out the gun. The primer doesn't look very dented, maybe something you should check.

Seems like Chili handled it all in stride.

Tim
 
Smart move to check the barrel...I had a similar experience once with an apparently damp load that shot poorly--I could actually see the shot load after it left the barrel. The shell ejected, and because the gun did shoot, I racked in another round and pulled on a mallard.

I'm guessing the damp shell's wad got most of the way down the barrel before it stuck. When I pulled on the mallard, all I heard was the ignition and a metallic thunk. The barrel split behind the choke tube to the halfway point in about five connected pieces.

There were no flames or flying shrapnel that I noticed, and I didn't feel like I was in any danger.

That barrel would have made a good lamp base and an excellent reminder to completely check over your gun after a malfunctioning load.
 
Al, that shell and wad look very rusted. Check your shells and toss all of them that have any sign of rust on the primer or base. Shake them as well and make sure the shot still rattles. If it does not then toss them since the shot is a rusted clump.

Glad everything worked out for your safety.

Here is something to review to take your mind off flaming shot gun shells. Sit down first, and after reading the pdf (you might not be able to down load that though...) or skip to the 6th page for an in the field photo.

http://forums.outdoorsdirectory.com/...hp/85995-48-Inch-Ram-!-!

The web sight is easy to join so that you can see attachments, that way you can keep up with those that share your "sickness."

The tall skinny guy in the pdf was someone I went to college with back in the early 1980's. He was born a sheep hunter in Glenallen and has taken over his parents teaching job(s) in Glenallen.
 
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Al a friend had the same thing happen. He called
fiocchi sent all shells back and they replaced them, they are having a problem with certain shells.Hope this helps

rich
 
Al, I have also heard of a particular issue with Bennelis where oil and gunpowder will accumulate around the firing pin, jamming it or slowing it down and causing light strikes and late fires. I have also heard of the pin getting stuck slightly forward out of the bolt and causing a slamfire when a round is chambered. Usually a really good cleaning of the bolt and pin will fix this. Not sure if this could be the cause of your incident but maybe it's worth a look. Glad you are OK and uninjured!
 
Glad you hurt Al.

I hope you forgot a word in that sentence!? Hahaha . . .

Al, wow . . . scary stuff! Glad you're in one piece . . . and ended up having a great hunt too!

Fiocchi's are now on my "avoid" list . . .
 
That shell looks almost as old as you Al and I know you are older than Tom Scholberg and he is really old.

Now if you can just teach Chili to pluck and clean the birds (leaving one wing on naturally), then you would have a story to tell. That must have put a smile on your face watching the dog drop the bird in the boat. Way cool.

Mark W
 
Tom,
Yes, I agree-----you are just but a "mere" kid!


I want to thank everyone for your thoughts and input. After much thinking about what you had to say, I came to the conclusion that it was not the Fiocchi shell nor was it my Nova. The blame would have to be placed directly upon my shoulders. I was the guy who allowed my shells to get wet last fall, September, when it rained. Ironically, that was the last bit of measurable moisture that we have had. I think I had an inch of water in my sled that I always have on my four-wheeler or the Mule. I have made sure that all rusted shells have been taken out of circulation.
Thanks again, everyone.
Al
 
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