Puppy scam losers

Eric Patterson

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Who here would sell a pup under the terms below? A little background info. This scammer proposed they send me $3500 for a pup and I would in turn pay their shipping company to have a puppy to sent to them (Norway based on the email address). I replied to that email with my requirements, the need for me to talk to them, a deposit from them, etc, etc.. The email below removes all doubt, this is a SCAM. On top of that I recived another scam email this morning from someone claiming to be in Quebec who wanted to buy two puppies with a similar deal. Picking up on these scams is pretty easy, but it just makes you a bit more leary of all enquiries.

Dear Eric Patterson, I write in respect of the information you forwarded for the cheque payment to be delivered to you in as soon as possible.At this point I want to believe it is a deal sealed between us,that once payment get's to you you will comply to the terms we agreed on to avert delays that might be detrimental to this transaction.I have spoken to the client as regards your cheque payment.He explained to me that the cheque will get to ASAP.

I advice that you remove your advert from the internet to avoid any further complications, since your payment has already been confirmed.I expect you to keep me informed when you received the Cheque Payment,so that I will forward the name and address of my shipper who you will send the difference on the cheque to.Please get back to me via email once you received this mail to confirm that you got the email and also agree on sending the difference on the cheque payment once you have received the cheque
payment.


Please Re-confirm your interest in this transaction.Waiting for your reconfirmation mail for onward transaction.I await your response to proceed further on this transaction.
Thank you,


Mrs Elizabeth Duke...
 
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That is classic scam wording.
It's amazing how often otherwise intelligent people get caught by these scams.
The number one thing to do is always wait until the check or money order clears in about a week. If they won't wait that long they are not worth dealing with. Just because the bank cashes it doesn't mean you won't have to pay it back if it comes back bad. Sorry to say but unless I knew them I'd never buy or sell anything with someone in another country.

Now if I can just get that African prince to send me the reward for getting his money out of the Rwanda National Bank...

Tim
 
Eric,

I am in the hospitality business, we get these scams all the time. The thing to note is that they will send you an out of country check for more than the transaction amount and ask that you wire them the difference at once. Guess what, the check will never clear.

Lee
 
What the hay!!! I don't even understand her email, it just sound so impersonal, just a business transaction. Man these are your babies, you want to talk to somebody who is excited about them and will train, hunt and make them a part of the family. That email just gives me the creeps.

We just got Alex (the Semper pup) back over the weekend and dropped off Gus our Topbrass pup with Carol Kackelmeier our young dog trainer. Carol really fell in love with Alex and his stubborn ways, and she was finally able exert her will over him and bring out his talent, he is now running 250 yard water blinds at age 12 months! I am going to run him in a NAHRA intermediate weekend after next.

How have the puppy sales been going? Any response from Working Retriever or other online classifieds?

Good luck and sell a pup to those guys in Norway, maybe you'll get a lucrative offer from a Nigerian.

John
 
John

I agree with your assessment about the cold nature of the email. I don't think I will hear from them again. Based on my terms I sent they know I know.

Right now I have received payment for 6 puppies. Some from here and some from the ads you mentioned. I thought I had two maybe three more sold making it 8 or 9 but one fella has not made good on his deposit he said he sent and the other two look to have changed their minds. You never know when when someone will come through or back out so I'm sticking to payments recieved for actual sales.

Glad to hear Alex is doing well. Whill he bring you a Stroh's? "Alex, that better be your water!" What a great beer commercial that was. Good luck at the NAHRA. Let us know how you do.
 
Here's what you do...get their check(yeah right) deposit it into a new account and see if it clears..then forget them. These things come to me weekly ...and I am dealing with the Rowanda minister of financial dealings to unlock the 40 million that was frozen after the coup......
 
This is disturbing, I always thought of Elizabeth Duke as a good person who would not do something of this nature.

Truly upsetting...............
 
Sure sounds legit to me. Hey Eric, Ok if I send you a "[font=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica] cheque payment" [/font]under the same original terms that Elizabeth proposed.?
 
Lee,

You too...I told the Rowanda minister as soon as I recieved confirmation that the money was safely in my bank account in the Camman Islands I was to give he 25%. Now I have to give you some too? What a scam!!!!
 
Eric,

I've gotten the same email from two different individuals in regards to my Aquapods I had for sale. I also got the Rowanda scam numerous times. I recieved one a couple of weeks ago where a banker in London wants me to claim I'm a long lost relative of a customer that has several million in his bank and he and I will split the amount when the court releases the account......Man, it's amazing what people can come up with ain't it? I know what you mean about wondering if your getting a legit offer from someone.

Ed L.
 
Hey Lee, Do Not Bring these check to the Bank.

Trust me on this one, we (bankers) hate them more than you do. At least every other week, I have to convince some old person that they did not win a lottery that they did not enter. About three months ago, I had a lady in my office that was so mad at my bank because we would not let her deposit her $3,600 check "they" sent her to deposit and pay them back the "government transit fee", because it had to of course come from her. She went to the police to file a compliant, they called to tell me they got her straightened out. The funny part is reading the letters, now I have a secretary that proofs my letters for spelling and grammar, they don't and generally if you see misspelled words, it's not legit.

It's even worse for us now. My bank has been hit at least 20 times with phishing scams. My company owns a fair number of banks in small towns, typically there is us and maybe another competitor bank in the town. They buy a list of email addresses from that area and send everyone a email saying they need to update their password on the internet banking. The email has a link to "our" website, that asks a bunch of personal information we already know. The website is of course slightly different than ours, but looks similar. The scamer now has your social security number, account number, routing number and password. The money is drained out of the account in minutes in most cases. Generally the person fills out all the info, hit send and then figures out something is wrong and calls. Sometimes in time, sometimes not.

This has been a nightmare for me. The branches I manage are in a larger town, we are fairly unknown to the average consumer. I have gotten atleast a dozen calls from people saying "I don't have an account with you and never will, if this is how bad your record keep is" Most tell you that and then hang up, without ever knowing we had nothing to do with it and can only take down the website about 12 hour after we find out about it, as they are hosted generally on yahoo and it takes them a fair amount of time.

It's hard to believe people fall for this scams, but they do. Everyday.

Andrew
 
Andrew, when these things came out years ago ...on the newest technology...a FAX machine...I would get two or three a week. I seem to remember it originated in Nigeria and they had these poor Nigerians sending these out with a promise that they would be paid. It stopped for a while but every now and then I get one in the email or on the fax and chuckle when I read them. I guess greed overcomes common sense with a lot of people..even with constant warnings telling them they are scams. Just the kinds of things we need as businessmen to fill up our "spare" time and use up toner and paper huh?
 
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