Rejection is Tough (High School Baseball)

Eric Patterson

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As some of you are aware the past 4 years of my life have largely been consumed with my middle sons baseball career. Thomas loves playing baseball almost as much as he likes duck hunting. We pretty much have two seasons at our house, baseball and duck. Rec leagues, competitive leagues, travel teams, and middle school baseball, he's plays all of them with the goal of making the high school team and playing with his classmates. Outside of duck season hardly a day goes by he isn't working on his hitting or some part of his game. His level of dedication and love is impressive and is the reason Michelle and I make sacrifices for him to play as much as he does.

This week the highschool he will attend held tryouts. It's a 6A school with a lot of incoming talent and limited roster spots. He's an 8th grader but the program welcomes 8th graders and takes some every year into their program. Even though he's going into 8th grade he has played most of his career with the kids going into their freshman year. For those kids it is a make or break tryout. I've never known a kid that didn't make the freshman team to come back and make JV or varsity. It just doesn't happen in this program. I know almost every kid that tried out. They've played with or against us for years and we know the kids strengths, weaknesses, ability, and attitudes. With limited slots it's a known fact good players won't make the cut. Kid's that have have talent and worked hard for years get dropped, most will give baseball up entirely when they can't play for school recognition alongside their friends. It's tough.

Yesterday the coaches posted the team. For some players and parents there was a huge sense of relief and feeling of accomplishment - they made it, all those hours of training and weekends on the road paid off. For others, it was a crushing blow, simply devastating to have invested so much to be told "you aren't good enough to play here."

We had a game last night. Our team has players who both made it and didn't make it. Difficult situation but everybody tried to be upbeat and encourage the ones who came up short. You could read the faces on the parents whose kid did not make it. They hurt for their kids.

Thomas has another year to make the team. Another year of work and baseball and me wondering, "Will he make the cut?" I hope a year from now I can share his joy and tell him his work and dedication paid off, that setting a goal and sacrificing to get there builds character, that the biggest rewards in life are ones you work for. Those are the lessons I want for him. But yesterday clearly showed the other side, disappointment and tears for falling short. That's a lesson we all deal with at some time and it too is important. Working hard yet failing and and accepting it gracefully, not letting it douse one's spirit. Yes that is important and has value, but I just don't want my kid to go through it. Funny how a game for fun can be so hard.

Eric
 
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Eric, I understand where your coming from. Up here our school plays d1 baseball and we have the same problem however its not so much about talent unless your so good it can't be ignored. However most of the kids are average and very similar in talent and that is where it gets tough around here. Politics takes over and it becomes about what your last name is, what position you hold on the Schools board or athletic board and so on.

My son has just completed his sophomore year and will be stuck on the JV team throughout his HS career yet plays on a select summer team not coached by a parent where all the kids are of great talent. Its tough to swallow and extremely hard on the kids but be it known that life sometimes isn't easy or fair and to take what is given and or not given and move forward and learn from it.

I am sad about HS sports and baseball particularly because its just not fair at times. My son will be a 4 year letterman in bowling at our school and in bowling its a totally different situation and handled properly as they do not have a individual board for the small sport unlike the larger sports of baseball basketball and football.

Either way, Tell your son never give up and as long as he is playing the game and especially summer ball on a quality team and great program he can still get into a great college playing that game as more scouts are found at high end tournaments than HS anyway. Up here we have Pasttime tournaments and a lot of showcases. These are where you want to concentrate your time and efforts the most for your son and his future at the game of baseball.

Good Luck to him and you as its very trying on both the parent and the child.
 
Either way, Tell your son never give up and as long as he is playing the game and especially summer ball on a quality team and great program he can still get into a great college playing that game as more scouts are found at high end tournaments than HS anyway. Up here we have Pasttime tournaments and a lot of showcases. These are where you want to concentrate your time and efforts the most for your son and his future at the game of baseball.


Interesting that you bring that up. I spend a ton of time in my vehicle for work & 90% of the time I am listening to sports talk radio. This was one of today's topics. "Scouts don't even attend HS baseball games anymore, becuase all the talent is in the summer and travel leagues." I don't know how true that is, I quit baseball in 4th grade to play year round soccer and have little boys (3&1) so I am 100% out of the loop.


Eric - Have your son (or you) talk to the people that make the cuts. Maybe they noticed a skill(s) that needs a little polishing to make the team. The worst case, is that he gives them the impression that he cares enough to ask and work on said skill(s) for next year, "when it matters". Failure isn't a bad thing, as long as there is something learned from that experience.
 
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Either way, Tell your son never give up and as long as he is playing the game and especially summer ball on a quality team and great program he can still get into a great college playing that game as more scouts are found at high end tournaments than HS anyway. Up here we have Pasttime tournaments and a lot of showcases. These are where you want to concentrate your time and efforts the most for your son and his future at the game of baseball.


Interesting that you bring that up. I spend a ton of time in my vehicle for work & 90% of the time I am listening to sports talk radio. This was one of today's topics. "Scouts don't even attend HS baseball games anymore, becuase all the talent is in the summer and travel leagues." I don't know how true that is, I quit baseball in 4th grade to play year round soccer and have little boys (3&1) so I am 100% out of the loop.


Eric - Have your son (or you) talk to the people that make the cuts. Maybe they noticed a skill(s) that needs a little polishing to make the team. The worst case, is that he gives them the impression that he cares enough to ask and work on said skill(s) for next year, "when it matters". Failure isn't a bad thing, as long as there is something learned from that experience.


ITs not only true is serious business. Summer ball is huge. Take a look at the big name prospects and see where they played? A lot of them are out of top tear summer programs. do a quick search for the Midland redskins in Cincinnati Ohio. This teams pays 100% of a players costs, air travel, everything and has the best of the best from all over the USA on there team. And I am sure there are many others similar. there success rate for Drafting into the MLB is outstanding. But you got to be that good.

Summer baseball is where the scouts are if your above average. simple as that.
 
Allowing a failure or a rejection to define you will end you, and the world will continue to move on with or without you.
 
Like Tony mentioned showcase teams are one of the common places a kid gets a spot on a college roster. The days of scouts coming to high school games are over. These days a paid coach, usually someone that has a "baseball academy", put together teams, aka showcase teams, of skilled players to play in front of college scouts at showcase games in hopes of landing a roster spot or scholarship money. Players typically pay a team fee and then pay $150-$250 per showcase. They will play weekends in the summer and fall. I don't have a lot of exposure to this but from what I've seen this is by no means a sure way to find a college team to play for. A lot of money is paid out in hopes of playing college ball but in reality not that many make it.
 
In high school sports, unless it can be measured (track & swimming) politics is tough.

All the parents pushing their kids on travel teams, & whatever, do not seem to notice that few get to the next level in college.

I have a nephew who had a 90 mph fastball in 10th grade. In HS he was unhittable. Not so true in college but like MOST pitchers his arm gave out.
 
If someone LIKES playing ball why quit? Even if you don't make the cut for the school team. There are rec leagues, even CO-ED softball leagues.
 
Baseball is a big part of our lives here at my house.

My Son had a great time playing the game. He played little league, community travel ball, open travel ball, a little JV, then on to Varsity Baseball where he lettered four years. He even played on a league where he was able to play against former college and pro players. He then went on to college, where he never lost a game as a starting pitcher.

A couple things we learned along the journey-

-Politics plays a bigger part than it should.

Whenever a player is working out, there is another, somewhere working out even harder...

Most of the camps were a waste of money for actual baseball education and technique learning. They were great for camaraderie, exposure, socializing and a heck of a lot of fun however.

With all of that being laid out there, he still says he wouldn't trade a minute of it for anything.

Good luck to your Son Eric.

As my Son's best and favorite coach once told him- you play because you love the game first and foremost. If you love the game enough, the rest will fall into place.

He was right.

Just remember- Michael Jordan couldn't make his HS team until he was a junior...
 
Just remember- Michael Jordan couldn't make his HS team until he was a junior...


A fine example as to why HS sports are not as important to a sports career as some school coaches want the players to think.

Enjoy the game, find a team to fit in and go with the flow and see where ya end up.

Also go to a few showcases and see where you stand if you want to pursue a college career in a sport.
 
Allowing a failure or a rejection to define you will end you, and the world will continue to move on with or without you.


Well said Ray. If he is getting better and having a good time then it is worth it. The goal should be to better yourself not to be recognized by others.
Easy to say much harder to actually do.

Tim
 
I know this feeling Eric all too well.

My done was just like Thomas but hockey was his game and you can imagine what hockey is to kids in the "Hockey State". Chris was never on the top teams but was a good player. He was never the aggressive type and enjoyed an assist over a goal. Unfortnately the people watching kids during try outs always thought the most aggressive kids were the best kids and one of the reasons Chris didn't make the top teams

He still worked hard and we always encouraged him to be the best at what he wanted to set his goals to be. For Chris it was leading the hockey association in assist points which he did every year he played.

When it came time for the HS try outs Chris didn't even want to give it a go. Man was I disappointed. It was t my place to make him try out but try to determine why. He said he didn't want to take away from his acedemics whic I couldn't fault

The killer came when the HS coach walked up to me before tryouts and said he hoped Chris would be trying out as be was more interested in smart play makers and team players than having the kid who had more individual talent. I asked him to let Chris know this which he did

Chris did not tryout for the team and it hurt me as I helped coach him and his buddies since he was quit young. Many of the kids on Chris's former teams made the HS team and I never thought they had the talent my son did. Many of the "A" players didn't make the HS team and talk about upset parents

Chris decided that as a sophomore he would tryout for the golf team. He played golf a few times for fun but trying out for the team was going to me a whole ends level. He worked on his golf game prior to his sophomore year and improved quite a bit but making the team was going to be a stretch.

Come tryout week I thnk there were 30 kids trying to get one of the 20 spots on the team. In the end he made the team and has now played a couple of seasons and his having the time of his life

A couple of weeks past he started talking about hockey. He is thinking about playing junior gold which is more of a fun league verses traveling or high school competitive hockey. I'm encouraging that as he loves the game so much

I know this is a long story to get to a point. What I learned through all of this is that it should be about my son and not about me. While I was devastated he wouldn't give the HS hockey a chance, he wasn't. He tried something else and is enjoying his teammates and the game of golf. He is now going to go back and play hockey because he loves the game and the many buddies that will be playing alongside him. Isn't this the reason we want our kids to be in team sports and activities?

In this State where many pro hockey players come from, it is still such a small amount. Less than 1% even make it to a Division 1 school which says how competitive a D1 school is let alone making a pro team.

Tell Thomas to keep working hard and enjoying the game and friends he plays with. Keep encouraging him to always try hard and do his best. Don't make the mistake I saw way too many parents make while coaching many sports and that is to let the game and team he is on define who Thomas is. It is a set up for certain failure at some time in his sports career.

Thomas is only an eigth grader and can still make the team. If this is his goal keep him focused by lots of encouragement and by playing hard over the summer. If he hasn't seen much disappointment in his baseball goals, it might be time to slowly show Thomas examples of what successful kids have done since not making any of the HS teams. Like many have pointed out, unfortunately it isn't always the best kids that make the team as there are so many unfortunate reasons why this occurs and politics is right at the top.

One more funny story. During tryouts, one of the Dads of a kid trying out owned a very successful restaurant in the area. He would always cater meals for the tryout judges and he made sure they knew where this food was coming from. He also donated money to the hockey association when new jerseys were needed and so on. His kid was an OK player but not nearly as good as many who were selected below him. He made every A team coming up through the various levels. High School time came and he didn't make the team - not even close. While it was a shock and surprise to him and his son, to everyone else it was t. This man let his kid know how upset and disappointed he was in him for not trying hard enough or working hard enough to make the team. His son was devastated in more ways than you can imagine. The minute this dad found about not making the team, he withdrew all support of the association and wouldn't let his son play Junior Gold and then tryout for the HS team the next year. His kid wanted to keep playing hockey but Dad was too embarrassed. What life lessons did this kid learn I wonder? Hopefully the association learned a few as well but I don't think they did.


Mark W
 
Eric,
This all made me think of John S., a kid I played college basketball with. During his high school career, he never started one game and rode the bench most of the time.
Then when he started college he decided to try and make the team. Not only did he make the team, he became a starter and for four straight years he was our leading scorer. Called a late bloomer? Maybe. The good news is that he did not quit because he was rejected earlier in his life.
Al
 
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If someone LIKES playing ball why quit? Even if you don't make the cut for the school team. There are rec leagues, even CO-ED softball leagues.


Good question. My observations are if a kid has spent years playing on competitive/travel teams and put in significant time to develop their skills in hopes of playing for their school and getting the recognition that comes with it, then if they fall short playing on teams that seldom practice and play a couple games a week for eight weeks is not an attractive option. I suspect some of the kids that did not make it will continue to play on travel teams (if they can find openings as the opportunities get smaller at this age) and continue working on their skills while most will drop out of the sport entirely.

I love hearing these stories of not quitting and of players who matured later in life and went on to be successful. That's inspiring. I also know the reality for a lot for the boys that got cut this week is they will look for other things outside of baseball to fill their time.

I guess I'll reiterate my original point. I saw some good players get cut this week, kids who all they do is play baseball out of love for the game. I bet those kids are still reeling from the coaches decision and trying to figure out where or even if they will play. Thomas has another year and after seeing the hurt for some players I hope that pain does not fall on him. If it does we will make a positive out of the situation and for certain duck hunting will figure in his plans. He loves it as much as baseball, maybe more.

Appreciate all the great comments and personal stories you guys are sharing. I knew you guys would come through.
 
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Eric, I will make the offer again. You and Thomas are welcome to go to Canada. To hunt ducks! As of right now Oct.6-13 is open this year. I freelance and all it cost are expenses.
Sonny
 
Eric, check out the courses and videos on www.positivecoach.org Sound info generated from Stanford U, initially for coaches...Jackson (NBA coach - he's got a few rings), along with Women's Nat'l Soccer team, college, school, and club teams, endorsing the method. A parent guide, and then a player course followed. Takes effort to be useful. In my 30 years of making soccer appearances, running clnics, camps, trips, and teams, your concerns are common to many. What makes a difference is how situations are handled. Not all "experts" know any more than you/parents raising kids...just good to have a knowledge of what's out there, thus, my recommendation of the website. Good luck,
Tom
 
all this makes me glad my daughter is a swimmer. if you are the fastest you win the race. if you aren't you don't. either way there is something in the program for everyone, and her club treats everybody like Olympic champs.
 
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