Remington 1187 Pattern Low?

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Shane Snyder

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I just got my son a new Remington 1187 and we went out to shoot some clays with it. The result was not good! he was missing more then he was hitting! This is unlike him, he is a very good shot, So we decided to pattern the gun. And found it is shooting very low. Does anyone have any ideas on how to get the gun to pattern better? We tried with #2 Steel, the Lead was better but still not good. Any help will be appreciated.
 
The 1187 I owned drove me nutz, till I found out the screw in chokes in most of them were installed off center. WAY off center. I traded it in for a M-1. That was back in the mid 90's, so hopefully Remington has corrected that problem. Big mistake when I traded my 1100 3" for that 1187...
 
My first call would be Remington. My second would probably be the place I purchased it. Changing barrels is an easy process.
 
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Had that same issue yrs. ago when they first brought out the 11-87 supermag. Gun functioned fine, sight pic same as my other 11-87, but pattern board told the story. Sent gun back to remington and told them of low patterns and they came back with it fell within their specs. Had same issue with an 870 barrel just last year. They did remedy that. I use to be a remington fan but the last 4 remington,s i,ve bought have all had issues. Good luck with your search for a cure.
 
I use to be a remington fan but the last 4 remington,s i,ve bought have all had issues. Good luck with your search for a cure.
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Roy, your are way more loyal than I would be.... if I bought 2 of something that was not as expected I would be done. No brand loyalty in me.
 
your problem could be with the way the gun fits your shoulder rather than a barrel issue. When you mount mount the gun and look down the barrel what do you see; I would guess that the rear bead or rib is higher than the front bead. I know my benelli has a shim kit for this but not sure about remington.
 
You could try another barrel. When my 11-87 was new, I was not shooting well with it, so I patterned it and discovered it was low and to the right. I bought a new barrel, and it patterned 50/50, like it should. Shot much better after that. Never fussed at Remington about it, but it seems they should stand behind the quality of their barrels.
If you read about shotgun fit, you will find that length of pull (can be changed by thicker/thinner recoil pads) does effect up/down pattern placement because of how you mount the gun. It just seems to me that stacking the beads ought to put the pattern on center, every time. After that, fit the gun so it lines up right automatically so you don't have to look at the barrel to be on target (proper shotgun shooting involves focusing on the target, not the beads)


-Bill
 
Barrel should shoot 50/50 or 60/40 high. If it is shooting really low, call back Rem and insist on a new barrel with return postage to return old barrel. Ask to speak to a super or get the name and address of the president for a registered letter. The gun is not in spec...
Do not yell or holler, be nice and forceful... Had a problem with a customers o/u and made them correct the barrels, .07 thousands difference between barrels, a choke and 1/2 difference. Not spec...
 
Well i had been shooting an 11-87 premier prior to that for about 15 yrs. and although about once a season for awhile back to remington it would go for breakage of one thing or another. But i didn,t miss with it so i kept right on getting it repaired. That 11-87 supermag was suppose to be my backup until i found out about the low patterns. Just prior to remington stopping production I purchased another syn. premier for my son to use and it patterns perfect and so far after about 10 yrs. no problems. When they came out with the 700 rifle in 270WSM i purchased one and after a lot of frustration found out the barrel wasn,t properly chambered. Sent it back and they changed barrel and rifle now is a shooter. Got a bug last summer that I wanted to pull out the ol pump gun from my younger days.That 870 barrel i had to return last summer i,d had for years but hadn,t shot it much. Used it on and old 870 premier i,d had with fixed full choke from the lead duckin days. This barrel was a rem choke barrel. My drop at comb has changed over the years and last summer while working on stock to correct problem I discovered problem with aimed patterning. I was suprised they exchanged barrel as long as i,d had it but they did. New one patterns spot on. They do have reasonlaby good customer service. I,ve been shooting my Brownings and Benenelli,s for the past 8 yrs and never had a problem with either.
 
Thank you for all of your help and suggestions, We contacted Remington, they were very good about it, They asked us to send the gun back and they would take a look at the problem. Found that the choke as not the same line as the barrel.
So they sent us the gun back with a new barrel. It shoots great now. 50/50 on the pattern and I have no excuse for missing any longer!! (What was I thinking!)
Thanks, to Remington and everyone who gave us suggestions.
 
Great that they made things right, but don't you think QC should have caught that before the barrel left the factory???? Just sayin.
 
Great that they made things right, but don't you think QC should have caught that before the barrel left the factory???? Just sayin.
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Sad to say, but IMO big green has experienced declining firearm QC for a number of years. I had a barrel with a non-concentric screw in choke, as did a friend. Still my go-to shotgun target ammo manufacturer after 30+ years, haven't lost their touch on ammo. Glad they did right by you.
 
I am totally dismayed. They have known about this problem with their screw in chokes for years. Yet they still churn them out... I have owned and still own my share of Remingtons. All shotguns with pre screw in chokes are fine, not so with screw in chokes. That's why I bought my Benelli. Inferior products force folks to look elsewhere.

Customer service should not have to fix a constant factory problem. Ya think they would have learned that from the American auto industry.
 
One additional comment here....the barrels I have seen with off-center chokes were obvious if checked. There is a visible difference in the barrel wall thickness around the choke. Look before you buy, it's a shame because the 1100/1187 series are otherwise nice automatics.
 
Remington, Chevrolet, Evinrude, Cabelas' all have disappointed me at one time or another. I have decided that you need to "know your enemy" and just keep fixing the old reliables that have been working and not jump on a new bandwagon. But then us old farts are just like that. Sounds like stock fit would fix the shooting low problem. Just sayin.
 
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