rescue dog?

Neal Haarberg

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So my lab of 11 years passed away this spring and I have been on the look for a new dog. My wife DOES NOT want a puppy. We have been going back and forth about what to do. She wants an older rescue dog. I am skeptical about getting an older dog that may not have a hunting background. Also my expierance has been that rescue dogs tend to have mental issues most likely brought on by poor owners. My buddy called me yesterday about a coworker of his who has a 4 year old black lab male that is in need of a home. I do not believe that the dog has ever hunted. He says that dog loves to retrieve. Other than potential gun shyness issues what else should I be concerned with? I am going to go take a look at the dog today after work so any feedback is welcome.
 
Aside from being gun shy, a dog can also be scared of commands and even the water. I have seen several labs that will not go into the water. He might get car sick, be afraid of boat rides, only like to pick up things that are not animals., have a hard mouth, not be potty trained, run of alot. These are just some of the things I can think of off the top of my head. Hope I haven't scared you off. Understand.......you can buy a purebred Lab pup and get the same problems listed above too.


dc
 
My advice is to "foster" the dog for a weekend. Get the current owner to agree that you will try out the dog for the weekend and that if it doesnt work out, you dont have to keep him. Put it in writing if you have to.
Then take him home, see how he fits in with your family. Make sure he is friendly & sociable. See if he is controllable on the leash & under command, truely loves to please & retrieve.
Checking for gun-shyness might be tricky. Make some noise, see if he cowers, is curious or indifferent. They will be good signs.
If he checks out, you have a dog. If not, all you lost was a weekend.
 
I'll second what Carl said.
One of the best dogs I have ever owned was handed at 2 yrs old.
It had no training but was teachable and became one of my favorite hunters.
John
 
I fyou do have a chance to take him around guns, take it slow. Leave him in the car for a few shots, then get him out for a few and slowly move him up to the shooting line. If he ignores all of it, you are half way there. I love the idea of keeping him for the weekend.

dc
 
Proceed carefully.

I would plan for a "light exposure" to all the critical things if you get the dog on a weekend pass. Have a real dead duck thawed out or freshly killed, take the dog to water, and do the gun thing. Let the dog see the gun - that's the first test of gun shyness. Otherwise, combine the gunshot with a retrieve of whatever object you know he likes to retrieve. Same with the water - test the retrieving with whatever he is already accustomed to picking up.

Then place your bet on whether or not he can and will put it all together. Depending on the dog and you, I'd say there's a decent chance of it working out. Otherwise just get in touch with whatever breed rescue(s) is/are in your area and let them know what you are looking for.

Depending on how desperate the present owner is, what are you going to do if you get a bunch of static on returning the dog at the end of the weekend . . . just a thought!

Good luck!
 
I would look to see how he responds to you;tail up ,wagging hopefully,good eye contact and a desire to please. Keep your expectations low .
 
Neal,

I have some experience with adopted gun dogs.

Five years ago, my wife and I adopted an AWS that had been severely abused and neglected. He showed no indication that he had been trained and, even at 2 y/o, he didn't know his name.

Obviously, my expectations were low and I decided to adopt him as a companion, not as a hunter. That was the correct attitude. He was very difficult to train as he didn't respond to positive reinforcement and would shut down at the slightest hint of negative reinforcement.

I stopped at basic obedience but he's been the most wonderful companion you could ask for.

As for quirky behaviors, you can expect a few. I'll give one example -- Morgan is absolutely terrified of dark-colored Jeep Cherokees. He's fine with light-colored Jeeps and any other small SUV, but if he sees a dark Jeep, he freaks out.

Morgan's background is the worst-case scenario. If you are patient, you can find mature pups that are in the rescue network through no fault of their own or due to unfortunate family circumstances. Over the years, I've seen quite a few chessies with gunning experience in need of placement. I'm sure you can find plenty of labs as well.

For any dog that is in the rescue network, regardless of age, approach them as you would a puppy. Expect timidity at first. Let them respond to you before engaging them. Further, don't expect them to respond to commands. Even if they know commands, they don't know or trust YOU.

I think some of the advice above is way off base. Leave guns, blank pistols, dead ducks, etc. at home. Base your decision on social skills. Again, assume the dog is a blank slate -- like a puppy -- and leave any hunting development up to a progressive training regimen.

Good luck.
 
So my lab of 11 years passed away this spring and I have been on the look for a new dog. My wife DOES NOT want a puppy. We have been going back and forth about what to do. She wants an older rescue dog. I am skeptical about getting an older dog that may not have a hunting background. Also my expierance has been that rescue dogs tend to have mental issues most likely brought on by poor owners. My buddy called me yesterday about a coworker of his who has a 4 year old black lab male that is in need of a home. I do not believe that the dog has ever hunted. He says that dog loves to retrieve. Other than potential gun shyness issues what else should I be concerned with? I am going to go take a look at the dog today after work so any feedback is welcome.


A lot of dialog and no one has mentioned the obvious... It may be time for the wife to go.
 
A lot of dialog and no one has mentioned the obvious... It may be time for the wife to go.

LOL! Classic..+1!

If you want a hunting dog, don't rescue. Better to get a puppy and mold it into a gun dog. I am all for giving rescued dogs a good home, but you shouldn't have any expectations they will hunt. If they do, great, you got lucky. So if you rescue, you have to do it with the understanding that you are adopting the dog to give a good home to and become part of the family.
 
A lot of dialog and no one has mentioned the obvious... It may be time for the wife to go.


Most of us think it, but you were the one who was brave enough to say it........
 
A lot of dialog and no one has mentioned the obvious... It may be time for the wife to go.


Most of us think it, but you were the one who was brave enough to say it........


Good wife (or no wife) is one of the most important aspects to a successful sporting career.
 
Tod, I was wondering how long it would take for that option to come up. My wife has put up with 3 puppies 5 boat building projects and family neglect for 4 months out of the year for 15 years now so I think I'm going to keep her. As for Jimmy the dog I picked him up last night and he actually is a laid back BIG lab who is way overweight. He actually waits for a command to go retrieve the tennis ball and has decent basic obedience. However I think that I have rushed into it. What I didn't mention is that I had also just moved last week. Half of the boxes are not even unpacked yet. Our house is not ready for a dog and I have way too many other things to get done before a new dog comes into the house. As far as the option of getting an older rescue dog I think that once I am ready it is a viable option if i am patient and now is just not the time. I wasn't planning on getting a dog until after the season anyway but my duck hunting partner knows the person fostering the dog and the opportunity came to me. I wasn't looking yet, so Jimmy will be going back. I explained my situation about the move and the need for a working retriever to the lady who was fostering Jimmy and she was concerned that I may not be ready for the dog as well so there should be no issue when I take him back tonight. Thank you everybody for your feedback
 
Sounds like he might have made a good hunting buddy after some work (and lots of walks & a diet!).
But also sounds like you made the right decision.
Be patient, the right time & right dog will come around!
 
Neal ,

You could get rid of the wife but , when i was looking for a lab i searched a few sites and settled on Conn. Labs for rescue , i was impressed with there services and even though this was going to be my hunting pal the organization did not frown at all on that, i was a little concerned about that but no issues . I contacted the foster family and CLFR sent out a person that verified we were who we were , all checked out . we then were informed that the dog we were looking at was shipped via kennel truck from Alabama , i will say when i 1st say the dog i was concerned about her weight but i knew she would be fine . I took Raven to my vet and they have given her a clean bill of health , i truly got a choice dog from the organization and would not hesitate to go this route again . Good Luck in your choice .



Dave M
 
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