Steve Sutton Moderator Emeritus

Eric Patterson

Moderator
Staff member
Quickly before I get to the topic at hand let me say I owe people emails, PMs, and thank yous, especially Chuck J. Since April work has become hectic with a flight test in less than a month, meaning full days with little time for internet access. Evenings and weekends have been completely consumed with baseball as Thomas is playing on two teams, park ball and travel ball. Travel ball practice is 45 minutes away two to three times a week and tournaments are all weekend affairs almost two hours away. Loving every minute of it but I’m seldom at home or near a computer. Onto the important matter at hand.

I believe I know Steve well enough to realize that his stepping down as Moderator is more than that. He is, at least for now, stepping completely away from the site. I wish it were another way but know Steve well enough that the site at this point neither holds his attention nor provides adequate satisfaction to keep participating. Burnout plain and simple and with the constant cry of “he’s mistreating me” and “I prefer peace, harmony, and pictures without having my statements challenged” I see why he has chose to move on. Anyone that has followed the site knows that intellectual debate is a primary reason for his interest. Shackle that and lose the drive.

When the “Sutton?” thread started and matt loughlin and Bob Ziegler made their comments my initial inclination was to ban them. After all they were warned before for publically displaying a lack of respect for the moderator and did not heed my warning. Before long the comments of opposition rolled in and I felt the forum was doing a nice job of policing itself and maybe they would begin to change their attitude. I should have seen it coming that the controversy would push Steve away but didn’t. Regrettably I miscalculated that one.

I’m only reiterating what has already been said but it is true that not only has Steve been the defining personality of the site but he has given more of himself than anyone. The neophytes that recently questioned his intentions and purpose are so far off base as to their comments that I find myself appalled at the complete lack of respect shown to someone that has put in countless hours helping others. Fools.

Perhaps the characteristic I prize the most from friends it is loyalty. If ever there was a friend of myself and duckboats.net it was Steve. He loyally served this community for a decade giving assistance to anyone that needed it. He literally made hundreds of trips to the post office to voluntarily send a stranger something of assistance or interest. He hosted and coordinated numerous trips for site participants. He offered his home and gear to countless folks and was a superb host on every occasion. He took his job as moderator serious and executed it with integrity. He taught us, challenged us, and made us laugh. I could keep going. It’s a shame that people took offense to his intellectual debate and wit. Steve was about getting to the truth and heart of a matter but it was too much for some to take.

Steve, you have my sincerest appreciation for all that you did and know that you have influenced many waterfowlers over the past decade and will always be an integral part and friend of this community.

I will be in touch.

Eric Patterson
 
I am sorry to hear that Steve has stepped down. My heart felt thanks for all that he has done for this site and all who participate. I will miss him along with his wit and wisdom.
There's not much I can add beyond what you've already said so well Eric. Let me know if there's any way I can be of service.
Lou
 
damn, this sucks. If you ever come to Arkansas, look us up. I'm sure we can find some old barns to photo.
 
This is highly regrettable and a great loss to the site. Agree with Lou that not much can be added to Eric's missive. Steve, if you do check back occassionally, please accept my heartfelt thanks for all of your contributions./cc
 
Eric ,

Thanks for clearing the Steve Sutton mystery up , i always remember my conversation with Steve one time prior to building my 1st eider sleds he was nice enough to send me a full size pattern that i used to build the sleds i have to this day i still have the pattern and will always appreciate his efforts to do that for me , alot of guys have come and gone from this site in the past few years due to different issues weather it is guys not agreeing on different matters or just getting wrapped up in everyday life like yourself and many others here. One thing that will hopefully continue to happen here is that we all get along and be able to share ideas , projects , advice with fellow members everyone has there own opinions and ideas but we all need to find a way to express those opinions in a respectiful way , after all we are all here because we have a passion for waterfowl , boats and all the gear that is related to our sport , So i would like to say THANK YOU to Steve and yourself for your comittment to keep this site up and running for so many years and i hope that we can all get along and still have what i would consider the best waterfowl site on the world wide net . Thanks again Steve , and Eric !!



Dave M
 
I discovered this site in the spring of 2000. While looking through the Readers Rig section I saw the Sutton fleet. Having met very few people with the dedication and commitment to waterfowling I feel, I was drawn to this site because of Steve Sutton. It was easily recognizable, here was a hunter whose passion and knowledge as well as respect for its traditions exceeded anyone I had ever known. Sutton will be missed....he won't be replaced. It is shame that a few who bring nothing the table could help elicit this response. Mike
 
I have been a member of this site since 1999 and Steve is one of the reasons I have been around for so long. He was always helpful to me and I enjoyed his "take no prisoners" approach when someone had it coming to them. Steve only knew me from my posts on this site but he offered me a salt water hunt if I was ever out his way. I think he is a class act and it sorely pisses me off that he was "driven off" but a few trolls that have been hanging around for a few months. Dani summed it up just perfectly last night. This site won't be the same...hasn't been the same for awhile. I know that change is inevitable, but I don't have to like it. Eric, I will tell you again that I appreciate all you have done to maintain this site. You will have my support if you decide to drop the hammer on anyone just because you feel like it. DHBP is,after all, your baby.
 
"This site won't be the same...hasn't been the same for awhile. I know that change is inevitable, but I don't have to like it."Dwight Harley


Well said Dwight......all the old timers of this site saw it coming.Steve leaving is just the begining of the end of the best site on the net.JMO

Best
Bob
 
Thanks for your efforts Steve. Your influence here has been a key factor in its success and in its content. I personally hope you change your mind and remain here with us, but I certainly understand.

Hitch
 
[font=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica]Eric,
Thank you for writing that. I chose this one paragraph that you wrote:
"[font=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica]I’m only reiterating what has already been said but it is true that not only has Steve been the defining personality of the site but he has given more of himself than anyone. The neophytes that recently questioned his intentions and purpose are so far off base as to their comments that I find myself appalled at the complete lack of respect shown to someone that has put in countless hours helping others. Fools."
I guess the days are gone when if you had something derogatory to say about an individual, instead of smearing them and hiding behind your computer screen, one would go up to that individual and eye ball to eye ball confront them. You got it out in the open, let your feelings be known, but just to that person. I guess smear campaigns hadn't been invented back then. Anyway, people who are so willing to knock someone else over the internet are basically cowards, in my opinion.
I have enjoyed this site immensely since joining. I wished that I would have known your friend, Steve.
Al Hansen
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WOW! Miss a day miss alot. Haven't checked the site for a while and didnt know this was brewing. Sorry Steve wont be around, I will miss his photos. Greg MLB
 
Steve will truly be missed. His knowledge on a number of topics was vast. His opinions were his and you didn't have to wonder how her felt on a subject. His love of duck hunting was evident in all his posts. This site will be worse for his absence.

Tom
 
Like others have said, Erics letter says it for most of us. I have never met Steve but he has sent replies to questions I've asked and has sold me a decoy I desired for my collection. I liked his wit and the way he answered up. Steve I will miss your letters, photos and advice. I'm sure we'll chat on other sites and I wish you all the best. I would hope that the door here is slightly ajar so that when and if you feel like it you can kick it open and jump back in. Until then all the best to you Mr. Sutton

Bill V
 
Having read Steve's farewell post, and now having read Eric's post, I feel compelled to comment. This whole situation is an eventuality I think any forum will face at some time during it's existence. I also think it is a certainty, with today's Internet, that new folks with qualities old, established members find distasteful, will eventually find a site and become members. I also think it should be apparent to anyone who pays attention that the Internet facilitates the spread of behavior that in the past would have been unacceptable. Part of it I think is generational, and part of it I think is the face to face interaction that is lacking on the Internet. One thing I am certain of, I truly believe it is a product of today's society, and I think it is a general malaise with respect to manners, morals, and ethics that seems to be spreading among younger generations. Frankly, I don't believe most "kids" respect their elders anymore.

Specifically regarding this situation, as a website owner/forum moderator myself, I can sympathize and empathize with Steve and Eric's position. As the founder/owner, Eric's current position of the forum NOT being a priority like it once was is something I completely understand. I also completely understand the difficulty of Steve's position; being a moderator put's you in a unique spot; you always have a bullseye on your back because no matter what, you will definitely piss somebody off, and it will happen on a regular basis. It is difficult to "moderate" when you are a strong personality with your own viewpoints and opinions. Being an "objective" moderator, while still voicing your own opinion, is virtually impossible. What you feel is "right", or "acceptable", will never match every other member's opinion of right or acceptable. Consequently differences of opinion will surface. In my opinion, "moderator burn out" is a certainty; guaranteed. Eventually you just get tired of dealing with the friction of people with differences of opinion.

Of this I am certain; Steve's blood pressure is lower, he is enjoying his morning coffee more, and he is smiling more. While I never met him in person or shared any private conversation, I admired his forthrightness.

Steve, may your shooting be true and your gamestrap heavy.

Eric, best of luck moving forward, and if I can help in any way, let me know.
 
Thank you Eric for putting into words what I and, I am sure, many others feel about this situation.

Thank you Steve for your contribution and assistance over the years. I have enjoyed your participation and friendship.

One response to comments made regarding the seemingly inevitable demise of this site and its unwritten code of conduct. In my opinion, that will only happen if the members present allow it to happen.

We have lost a number of friends from this forum in the past 10 years. Some will never ever return. Many more remain. We may interact a little differently via the internet then we do with those friends we can actually see, but we still have made friendship and relative fairness the bond that has kept this site together.

So we continue on.

If there is anything I can do personally Eric, feel free to ask.
 
I have always enjoyed this site as one of the few places on the web that I can go to where almost everyone acted and responded as an adult. Always felt that what Steve did was a large part of that. Everytime I log in here, I think of Steve and the naked stump dance and it makes me laugh. Sorry to see he will no longer be on here.
 
Well I do not visit the site for a couple of weeks as I am super busy and all hell breaks loose.......

Wishing Steve the best....his leaving has left a hole in this sites ability to present mutiple views of an issue. Individually we might not agree with Steve but he has a rare intelect in his ability to assess a controversial issue.... A rare commodity.....

Who is going to fill his shoes?

Matt
 
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