charlie foulds
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What trailor have you guys put your BBIII on and what mods, if any did you have to make?? Any pics with your BBIII sitting on the trailor would be great.......Thanks
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Trailor for a BBIII
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Pete McMiller
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Charlie,
I bought a Karavan galv. bunk trailer. I think the model is KKB-1800-64. I got that one because it is 68" between fenders, the same as my BB3. I don't need an 1800 lb capacity but they didn't have anything else with the width I needed. I had to move the winch past aft as far as I could to just clear the rear cross piece with the motor in the down position and even then it just hit it. I really like the trailer. One reason is that it is wider than my truck so I can see both sides while driving and backing up - a BIG plus in my book.
It has been great so far. I typically drive three hours to hunt in my main spots plus it has been to Manitoba and back. Probably 8,000 miles on it so far and no problems except the lights and I replaced the standard incandescent with LEDs last year.
I bought a Karavan galv. bunk trailer. I think the model is KKB-1800-64. I got that one because it is 68" between fenders, the same as my BB3. I don't need an 1800 lb capacity but they didn't have anything else with the width I needed. I had to move the winch past aft as far as I could to just clear the rear cross piece with the motor in the down position and even then it just hit it. I really like the trailer. One reason is that it is wider than my truck so I can see both sides while driving and backing up - a BIG plus in my book.
It has been great so far. I typically drive three hours to hunt in my main spots plus it has been to Manitoba and back. Probably 8,000 miles on it so far and no problems except the lights and I replaced the standard incandescent with LEDs last year.
Charlie
Below are pics of the trailer I had made. Kenmack had one made too. The one problem I ran into was the tongue weight was too heavy. Moving the motor forward can have this effect and even though I told the manufacturer to take this into account they still put the axles almost on the very back of the trailer. I took it to a welding shop and had them fix it. All is good now.
Below are pics of the trailer I had made. Kenmack had one made too. The one problem I ran into was the tongue weight was too heavy. Moving the motor forward can have this effect and even though I told the manufacturer to take this into account they still put the axles almost on the very back of the trailer. I took it to a welding shop and had them fix it. All is good now.
Brandon Yuchasz
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Charlie,
Good to hear your looking for a trailor. Did I miss any pictures of your boat lately?
I ended up looking locally for a used trailer and picked this one up for 150. Its a roller which I have been told can be bad for a wood boat. This year last year I just kept it strapped down tight and it was fine. The plan this spring is to swap the bunks off my alumunium boats trailor for the rollers.
modifications were not that difficult I moved the winch mount and cut the hieght of it down to fit.
Here are pictures of it durring it first road trip to Manitoba the paint was still soft !!!
Good to hear your looking for a trailor. Did I miss any pictures of your boat lately?
I ended up looking locally for a used trailer and picked this one up for 150. Its a roller which I have been told can be bad for a wood boat. This year last year I just kept it strapped down tight and it was fine. The plan this spring is to swap the bunks off my alumunium boats trailor for the rollers.
modifications were not that difficult I moved the winch mount and cut the hieght of it down to fit.
Here are pictures of it durring it first road trip to Manitoba the paint was still soft !!!
Brian Rippelmeyer
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Charlie,I will take some pics of mine tomorrow,I cut the back of the trailer and welded in some pieces for the motorwell,I bought mine used,replaced all the bunk boards repainted it Iam going to put new tires and wheels on it too,the trailer I bought is a ROLCO I dont think they are in business anymore,I will get the measurements off of it in the morning and take some pics. Brian Rippelmeyer
harry whitley
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Eric, best looking galvanized trailer I've ever seen fabricated by an individual. You could make a great living building custom trailers. Charlie, if you are handy with a welder, build one exactly like Eric's. If not, scout around and realize that a lot of adjustments will be needed to make most trailers fit right. Whatever you do, be sure that you put bearing buddies on the hubs.
I'm still blown away by the trailer Eric built,
Harry
PS On most factory trailers you can adjust the position of the axle without cutting and rewelding
I'm still blown away by the trailer Eric built,
Harry
PS On most factory trailers you can adjust the position of the axle without cutting and rewelding
Sean C.
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I purchased for my Scaup a King KB1410 (built here in the northwest, so pretty much limited to this area). I picked this trailer because it was wide enough so the boat fit perfectly between the fenders (not really between, but enough fender sticking out so that you could use it as a step), it had 13" tires, the frame on this one was actually welded where most are frames constructed of pieces bolted together, and it was as big as I could go without having a "super sized" trailer that was too big for the boat. The only modification I did to the stock trailer was add a roller at the front frame cross member to support the bow. Since most trailers this size only have 4' bunks there is nothing to support the front half of the boat except the winch post, which is why I added the roller!
I did not build the boat with the inboard motor well, so my bow eye to transom length was actually 16', which puts the boat pretty far forward on the trailer but still leaves just enough room to lower the tailgate but keeps the whole package as short as possible. I have found this trailer set-up works perfectly for my boat and how I run it. as long as I can get the very back of the boat in the water (typically about half the wheel submerged) I am able to launch and retrieve the boat.
If I had built the boat with the recessed motor well, I would have just let the transom pods hang off the back of the trailer rather than adjusting the trailer so the boat can slide on further (i.e. changing rear crossmember to adjust for motor skeg). There is really no need to support those pods since there is no significant amount of weight there. It would also make it considerably easier for launching to have those pods sticking off the back of the trailer due to added boyancy.
I did not build the boat with the inboard motor well, so my bow eye to transom length was actually 16', which puts the boat pretty far forward on the trailer but still leaves just enough room to lower the tailgate but keeps the whole package as short as possible. I have found this trailer set-up works perfectly for my boat and how I run it. as long as I can get the very back of the boat in the water (typically about half the wheel submerged) I am able to launch and retrieve the boat.
If I had built the boat with the recessed motor well, I would have just let the transom pods hang off the back of the trailer rather than adjusting the trailer so the boat can slide on further (i.e. changing rear crossmember to adjust for motor skeg). There is really no need to support those pods since there is no significant amount of weight there. It would also make it considerably easier for launching to have those pods sticking off the back of the trailer due to added boyancy.
Tod
That was this trailer. When I moved the axle back the triangle skids had to go. I hated it but hated even worse a tongue weight of well over 200 pounds. Why the SureRide put the axle as far back as they did is a mystery, or stupidity.
That was this trailer. When I moved the axle back the triangle skids had to go. I hated it but hated even worse a tongue weight of well over 200 pounds. Why the SureRide put the axle as far back as they did is a mystery, or stupidity.
200 pounds is a lot, I can see why you went to the trouble. Too bad on the skids. Manufacturers are more worried about the liability related to the danger of too little tongue weight, not your convenience.
On our camper the tongue weight was 500 pounds when we got it (we worked it down to 350 with some mods and loading). Wow does that make much weight make you depend on the vehicle - it sits where you drop it (hopefully!).
charlie foulds
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WOW, Their is alot more to this than I thought.......I am going Trailor and motor shopping this weekend, I sure hope I make the right choice..
Bill Burruss
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Charlie,
I went with the same manufacture Eric P. did for my BB2 trailer, but had mine custom made from these specs. 1st pic is what I ordered, 2d pic is what they built. I think the axle placement is pretty close to right to give a 10-20% tongue weight, although I wished they would have listened a little closer on the 39" axle spec.
Also, it has 12" x 4.80 tires w/ 1" bearings, which seems fine. Only upgrade I would like is the flowthru axle option like Champion offers or my Karavan trailer has (there is a hole bored in the end of the spindle that allows you to hook a grease gun to a nipple and pump grease up to the inner bearing and back throught to the front of the hub- a VERY useful option). I've only seen these on 1-1/16" and larger spindles.
-Bill
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I went with the same manufacture Eric P. did for my BB2 trailer, but had mine custom made from these specs. 1st pic is what I ordered, 2d pic is what they built. I think the axle placement is pretty close to right to give a 10-20% tongue weight, although I wished they would have listened a little closer on the 39" axle spec.
Also, it has 12" x 4.80 tires w/ 1" bearings, which seems fine. Only upgrade I would like is the flowthru axle option like Champion offers or my Karavan trailer has (there is a hole bored in the end of the spindle that allows you to hook a grease gun to a nipple and pump grease up to the inner bearing and back throught to the front of the hub- a VERY useful option). I've only seen these on 1-1/16" and larger spindles.
-Bill
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charlie foulds
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Thanks, Youse guys are the best 
.......( NYC pun) I am going to print this out and see what I can find that comes close. " Look Honey, I bought you a pretty motor and this nice shiney trailor for valentines day, Wish me luck!!!!!!!
.......( NYC pun) I am going to print this out and see what I can find that comes close. " Look Honey, I bought you a pretty motor and this nice shiney trailor for valentines day, Wish me luck!!!!!!!
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Bill,
I work in a tool and die shop where we (A) build to customer specs or (B) design and build with customer approval. What you wrote above has me wondering,, Why did you accept the trailer in spite of it not meeting your specs? Did they acknowledge the change? Did you approve the change?
Not that this really matters at this point, especially since your happy, but I'm just curious. I know if I made a 4" error or "change" in our shop, I'd be doing it over at no charge. Like I said, I'm just curious under what conditions you accepted the wrong axle placement.
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Bill,
I work in a tool and die shop where we (A) build to customer specs or (B) design and build with customer approval. What you wrote above has me wondering,, Why did you accept the trailer in spite of it not meeting your specs? Did they acknowledge the change? Did you approve the change?
Not that this really matters at this point, especially since your happy, but I'm just curious. I know if I made a 4" error or "change" in our shop, I'd be doing it over at no charge. Like I said, I'm just curious under what conditions you accepted the wrong axle placement.
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Bill Burruss
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Dave,
Probably the biggest factor is that I knew it would still be fine, and I wanted to take it home with me. The shop where they made it was a 2+ hour trip each way from where I was living at the time, so going back for a non-critical issue would not have been worth it. You are right though- if they did not meet specs, I should have been within my rights to ask for satisfaction. Always wondered if the shop got nervous about the axle position because most trailers that size have the axles much farther back (and thus too much tongue weight for a BB). The trailer under my Broadbill is a factory spec Karavan, and I have often thought about moving the axle forward...
Learned a lot over the years and seasons. There has been some varialbility in CG (especially fishing vs diver duck hunt)of my BB2 while trailering. I developed the initial measurements by putting the boat (empty, but with motor) on my Broadbill trailer and moving it arround to get a reasonable tongue weight, them measuring from the transom to axle. Initially was running a 6 gallon (~50 lbs full??) gas against the forward floatation bulkhead. Now it is against the transom, plus a trolling motor bat on occasion. Occassionally add a couple hundred lbs in dekes and longline anchors that balances who know where. On second thought, the 4" they were off may have been better...can not pull the boat forward to correct for light tongue if the engine lower hits the crossmember. At any rate, I've been happy with how it has worked so far.
Take care!
-Bill
Probably the biggest factor is that I knew it would still be fine, and I wanted to take it home with me. The shop where they made it was a 2+ hour trip each way from where I was living at the time, so going back for a non-critical issue would not have been worth it. You are right though- if they did not meet specs, I should have been within my rights to ask for satisfaction. Always wondered if the shop got nervous about the axle position because most trailers that size have the axles much farther back (and thus too much tongue weight for a BB). The trailer under my Broadbill is a factory spec Karavan, and I have often thought about moving the axle forward...
Learned a lot over the years and seasons. There has been some varialbility in CG (especially fishing vs diver duck hunt)of my BB2 while trailering. I developed the initial measurements by putting the boat (empty, but with motor) on my Broadbill trailer and moving it arround to get a reasonable tongue weight, them measuring from the transom to axle. Initially was running a 6 gallon (~50 lbs full??) gas against the forward floatation bulkhead. Now it is against the transom, plus a trolling motor bat on occasion. Occassionally add a couple hundred lbs in dekes and longline anchors that balances who know where. On second thought, the 4" they were off may have been better...can not pull the boat forward to correct for light tongue if the engine lower hits the crossmember. At any rate, I've been happy with how it has worked so far.
Take care!
-Bill
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