Upper Midwest grouse, woodcock, and maybe ducks?

Michael McCord

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We are planning a trip for early October, maybe 2nd week? Looking at Michigan or Wisconsin most likely. Upland will be top priority but I'm opportunistic- if we find a swamp holding a few woodies or mallards I'll get up extra early and pitch a few blocks, and rabbits will be in trouble when my flusher is up.

Any tips? This would be our first trip with 2 young dogs. They'll hunt separately because I doubt they'll be ready to hunt together by then.
 
Leaf drop should be well underway by mid-October. Here in the Upper Peninsula, most of the wood ducks will be gone or on their way out. The other point I would make is that many of the water courses are so alder choked that you will be hard pressed to get close enough to jump birds, shoot them, and retrieve them other than on beaver flowages. Look for areas where red oaks are abundant near water for woodies. If it is hot and dry, grouse will be back in the spruce and balsam. Same holds for wet windy weather. This link should give you some guidance. Minnesota, Wisconsin and Michigan are still recovering from grouse losses via Equine Encephllitis oubreaks. That said the last survey data for the three states indicated that Michigan was recovering a little faster...

Northern Lower Michigan will hold good numbers of wood ducks, and mallards on the open water on streams and rivers at this time.

When you are walking woods roads or trails look for raspberry stands on the road edge. Grouse will move out of the timber to feed on the leaves, as well as on clover stands growing in the two track, particularly after the first frost has hit.

DNR - GEMS (state.mi.us)

These are large enhanced cover blocks. Look for spotted alder, willow and red osier dogwood in combination in or on the margins of aspen stands. These species in combination are indicators that moisture is high enough in the soils for woodcock to probe and find earthworms. After heavy rains, check the side road puddles at first light for woodcok tracks left from night foraging for worms to get an indication of birds in the area. The larger water courses in the U.P. are used as migration corridors by woodcock, in the central portion of the U.P. from MUNISNG east over to Hulbert is pretty flat. You can work along the edge of the flood plain in the uplands which are more open to catch birds moving back and forth to feed at first light and in the late afternoon.

We have very few cottontails in the UP where varying hares dominate. I would try and put together a trio of hunters to effectively cover ground for two dogs.
 
Thanks! Just the information I need. As much as I want to be successful with grouse, the woodcock may be more important simply for helping the dogs develop. The mi-hunt website has provided a ton of good information too. If we end up in Michigan, we will probably be hunting northern LP this time around anyways.

Are the GEMs disproportionately pressured? I'd come across them in my research but wondered if they got beat to death since they were promoted as being the best habitat.

The beaver ponds looked promising on aerials. Are these spots I could reasonably expect to hunt with waders or would a canoe be needed as well? And how big of a decoy spread is needed? I'd like to get by with a small spread of 8-12 of my wooded decoys if possible.
 
Handful of decoys for unpressured areas and migrating birds. I would just pick-up some GHG early season mallards and rig them Texas style for walk-in hunts. Old established beaver flowages are generally easily accessible, but newly established ponds have a lot of newly felled trees and canals that are generally a couple of feet deep, but can be deeper. Waders area must. Alder, ash, birch and leather leaf generally line the banks. I used to hunt one when I lived in the eastern UP that held gadwall almost exclusively, why I was never able to figure-out. I used to hunt it on VERY windy days, approaching the dam from downwind. Once the dog and I broke the horizon the birds would jump, with most of them flying down across the other end of the dam offering good shots. This was an old flooding with mature conifers on both sides with a mix of birch and black ash. We recieve a very strong goose migration as well, so canadas are often using these as roost water.

Some GEMs closer to Traverse City and Marquette see a fair amount of hunting pressure, that said, when you consider several other factors: 1.) Four of these have been established near areas where i hunt grouse based on habitat and bird concentrations I have found; near but not on "MY hunting coverts"- a lot of habitat exists outside of these sites.. 2) Note the acreages of the individuals units scribed...that's a lot of "dirt" to hunt-out. 3.)The data on EEE and grouse mortality indicate that grouse that are reared in optimal habitat exhibit the highest disease resistance as well as best recovery and survival rates. Subsequent generations possess amnestic immunity, based on study data. Michigan appears to be recovering slightly faster than Wisconsin. I have no idea what our very low snowfall winter has had in terms of grouse carry-over. I did hear birds drumming two weeks ago.while I was out hiking a new clear-cut edge to look for deer sign.

The Horton Trespass law states a parcel has to be posted to be enforced, so essentially you get one trespass by mistake. I have a friend who had an artist friend of his paint him a sign that features Yosemite Sam with pistols drawn on it. The caption states: Back-off Hombre! This mud's mine! He swears that he has never had a tresspasser on his acreage because his signs are not intimadating and authoritative!, but humorous! You can hunt the sand roads if it is State land on both sides. /



As an out-of-state hunter, you can avoid having to risk dog loss due to wolf depredation events by avoiding the U.P. since they are absent below the Bridge. One of the top tier wolf pup rearing habitats is old beaver pond meadows...Pointers and big running breeds are the most frequently killed, particularly bear dogs and beagles running hares. When I run into a lot of scat, tracks and bones, I just pull the dogs in to walk at heel. When my labs smell wolf the generally get visibly submissive, so I get a near-instant heads-up to whistle them in. I have never had an issue with them.

I don't know how well you shoot but I average one hit for every three flushes on grouse with most of my "interval of improvement" after leaf drop. In full foilage, my hit ratio is more like one in four to five, but I am hunting over labradors. With woodcock, the tighter you are to water the more birds you will see. They tend to be in younger aspen that grouse which prefer wrist thick ten to twelve year old stands, dense enough to provide avian predation protection, yet with some understory cover as well. Woodcock generally juke-and-jive a lot prior flying away once the break the understory canopy. so reserve is the key to consistent hits.

There is a ton of publi access land to hunt, be it Corporate Forestland Reserve, State, or Federal Forestland in both the northern Lower Peninsula and the Upper Peninsula here in Michigan. Just be prepared to see a llot of Ohio plates. Tom Huggler once joked that we should change the motto on our auto plates to: Michigan, the state Ohioans go to hunt and fish!
 
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If vaccinations keep up at the current pace, I dont see any travel restrictions within the US this fall.
Are there any right now, other than wearing masks on public transportation??
 
Carl said:
If vaccinations keep up at the current pace, I dont see any travel restrictions within the US this fall.
Are there any right now, other than wearing masks on public transportation??

I know several states cut off nonresident hunting license sales last year.
 
While B.1.1.7 variant transmission rate is quite high right now in Michigan and the main driver of rate of viral particles spread statewide, the age cohort of those primarily infected has shifted to the 18-29 YOs bracket as well as within those of the returning "snow birds" population who opted-out of vaccination. I suspect that when you combine those folks with acquired immunity through active infection and those with higher antibody loads conferred by vaccination, rate of transmission of the coronavirus will have slowed considerably accross the United States, with "some pockets of exception".

I haven't cancelled my reservations for North Dakota.
 
  • No discharging a firearm across or on a forest development road, body of water contiguous to a road or where any person or property is exposed to injury or damage.
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]What exactly does "body of water contiguous to a road" mean?[/font]
 
They are referring to a road that parallels the shoreline of a lake. I used to live in a rental camp on Bass Lake, between Pentwater and Ludington back when I was squeezing fish for MSU. Great duck hunting lake with a road that seperated about 2/3s of the shoreline homes from their beach. Locals would often drive this in the fall, since most of the residents were summer month folks, shooting from their vehicles at pods of coots and divers that they deemed were within range. The bullet point statement section regarding a forest development road, I interpret, is made in reference to an active logging road, which will usually be accompanied by signage of some kind stating that logging is currrently ongoing. I used tp pick black morels on State land adjacent the Legrand buffalo ranch property near Lebranch wiith my in-laws in an area Ken's group used to haul a converted school bus in to use as a base camp-lots of drumlins with aspen clumps in the lowland pockets between them.
 
Well, when you consider that a subset of Michigan residents hatched a plot to kidnap our governor, spirit her across Lake Michigan in a black speed boat-not exactly a craft that would not stand-out wherever it came to dock- to a safe house in Wisconsin where she was to be tried and potentially executed, specific bounds on personal behavior seem both rational as well as rather necessary for a sub-set of gun owners in this country. Why? The determined that TjHEIR Freedoms were being impinged-on and limted by her actions. Thus their logic to surround our State house, guns at thre ready, assert that their freedoms "trumped" those of their fellow state residents. Now, overlay that on the collectivve behaviors exhibited in our nation's capitol and physical site of our Federal government on January 6th by thousands of individuals and you have another very telling example of lack of common sense on quite a grand scale. These self-proclaimed "patriots" have a very interesting perspectie on what is truly patriotic behvior per definition: having or expressing devotion to and vigorous support for one's country.


Sometimes the obvious is quite opaque to some folks!
 
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