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CHAD MENGEL

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I am looking for a good dog trainer to train my AWS I talked to Doug Kennedy but he is not intrested in the AWS. He did recomend Tom Waite from Dale Creek out of Berlington, Wi. I also am considering Glenn Kania from Delta Marsh Kennels in Oconcmowoc, Wi. Dose anyone have an opinion on either of the two trainers?
 
Chad, trained for what, strictly hunting, field trials or hunt tests? Where is Rome? I know I have seen the sign, but I can't remember where in the state it is. My area of Wisconsin is loaded with retriever trainers, from the most famous to the most misunderstood (hehe).
 
I want him trained for waterfowl. Hunting not field trials. There is actually at least two Rome, Wi that i know of. The one I live in is a little south of Watertown a little east of jefferson and a little north of whitewater.
 
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How old is the dog now? Does it have its permanent teeth? Basically, are you asking for single and double marks, collar conditioning, force fetching, and obedience?
 
That's exactly what im looking for. He is only 14 weeks right now still has some puppy teeth. I know most trainers want them to be about 5 1/2 to 6 months old so their puppy teeth are gone. Im just looking at the options right now and want to get something set up for around june.
 
From what I've heard and read about the breed, AWS tend not to respond very well to professional training. Which is probably why some trainers don't want to take them. So, as you are looking for trainers, the first question I'd ask is whether they have experience with that breed.

As you are probably finding out now, they develop a very strong attachment to their owner, and they really want to please, so any training has to start with that fact.

Have you talked to some breeders to find out whether they recommend professional training and who they recommend?

Rick
 
My 1.5 yo AWS is a champ in the garage... fetches, heels with bird, holds it, releases it upon command.

In the field, he's a mess... so I'm looking for professional help too. Very, very sensitive dog. Look at it the wrong way and he falls apart.

Good luck... we love our AWS.
 
Have you ever had an AWS or another breed before? Most folks do well with training an AWS themselves as you will be working as a team. Do you have any videos? Books?

Did you contact your breeder - who do they recommend?

Did you try contacting Dick and Lara Suesens at Wavecrest Kennels in WI? They might be able to help you out.

Do you have a local retriever club? HRC? They typically have training days or join the club. They will be TREMENDOUSLY helpful in giving you advice, tips and helping you out at their training days. Training your own dog can be extremely rewarding....as well as frustrating sometimes....but one day, everything will just click.

My little girl is coming along great...but I must admit, I haven't been able to work her much here lately due to work, family and some town zoning fight that I am deeply involved in here lately.
 
Chad - How did you make out? Did you look into any of the things that I and Rick had suggested?

Nick
 
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Tom is a great trainer. Ive seen dogs he's trained in action and they are all youd want in a hunting/hunt test dog.
 
Chad ,I wish I had seen this before I talked about collars. For what you want you should have no trouble training yourself. My tollers are not particularly trainer friendly and may be a lot like your AWS. If you spend 10 minutes a day with him it is very rewarding , you will learn to read your dog and will become a team. There is no greater reward than hunting with your best buddy and you can do it YOURSELF!!
Remember there are no time schedules, teach only ONE thing at a time and if the dog is having trouble with the lesson make success easier for him. good luck , John
 
I am either going with tom or i will attempt to train him myself. I have been working with him and he's doing great. He sits, stays, heels, retrives to hand, and is very steady. He is not gun shy and has a great learning curve. He and I make a very nice pair.
 
sound like you are on the right track, but like was stated above go slow and follow a program. try and find a training group (if you haven't already). You can only throw a bumper so far, and I am always suprised when lessons "learned" in the yard fall apart in training sessions. good luck.
 
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