opinion needed on new old stock price adjustment for a tractor...
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He's gonna race a badger digging out some prairie dogs.
Nice tractor you're looking at. I worked in the ag division and off road division for a total of about 17 years as a product designer for Deere. I wish I knew more about this series. I can tell you the "R" series is top of the line. It was reported this week (and verified by my son who works for Deere) a down turn in orders and economy has cause leadership to cancel all pay increases for salary and executive positions for 2026. Tariffs are not your friends! With that said don't expect much of a discount. They are pretty proud of these tractors. I'm surprised it's sitting on a lot but like they say location, location, location.
Edit: I'll add a little Info,
The John Deere 3039R compact utility tractor is primarily built and assembled at the John Deere factory in Augusta, Georgia, USA, part of the John Deere, though some components like frames come from Wisconsin and loaders from Mexico, with Yanmar engines sourced from Japan.
Key Locations & Components:
www.deere.com
Edit: I'll add a little Info,
The John Deere 3039R compact utility tractor is primarily built and assembled at the John Deere factory in Augusta, Georgia, USA, part of the John Deere, though some components like frames come from Wisconsin and loaders from Mexico, with Yanmar engines sourced from Japan.
Key Locations & Components:
- Assembly: Augusta, Georgia.
- Frames: Made in a sister factory in Wisconsin, USA.
- Engines: Sourced from Yanmar in Japan.
- Loaders: Assembled at a Deere plant in Mexico.
- Transmissions: Made in the USA.
Compact Tractors | 21.5-75 HP | John Deere US
The 1‐4 Series Compact Tractors from John Deere combine affordable ownership with convenient operation and a variety of implements for the many tasks you face.
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Have the sales guy work up a quote for a 2025/6 model spec'd the same way. I know you don't want to wait 6+ months, but you can bet the sales guy doesn't want to wait 6 months for his commission either. You're approaching end of quarter, and end of year. If he has the ability to do any significant discounting, you're approaching the best window - so anything you can do to make him think you might just wait on a new one is to your benefit. Personally, I'd gather everything from him then lay low until Christmas. There's a good chance that a deal done on the 29th or 30th is better than a deal done on the 12th. If, come the 29th/30th he can't do anything significant, ask for some service breaks for buying now instead of waiting for a new one... free oil changes or free transport to the shop for 12/24 months. Sometimes these guys can swing extras like this easier than price concessions.
I stand corrected. Looks like not all are made in India.Nice tractor you're looking at. I worked in the ag division and off road division for a total of about 17 years as a product designer for Deere. I wish I knew more about this series. I can tell you the "R" series is top of the line. It was reported this week (and verified by my son who works for Deere) a down turn in orders and economy has cause leadership to cancel all pay increases for salary and executive positions for 2026. Tariffs are not your friends! With that said don't expect much of a discount. They are pretty proud of these tractors. I'm surprised it's sitting on a lot but like they say location, location, location.
Edit: I'll add a little Info,
The John Deere 3039R compact utility tractor is primarily built and assembled at the John Deere factory in Augusta, Georgia, USA, part of the John Deere, though some components like frames come from Wisconsin and loaders from Mexico, with Yanmar engines sourced from Japan.
Key Locations & Components:
If you want to do a little light reading you might start here
- Assembly: Augusta, Georgia.
- Frames: Made in a sister factory in Wisconsin, USA.
- Engines: Sourced from Yanmar in Japan.
- Loaders: Assembled at a Deere plant in Mexico.
- Transmissions: Made in the USA.
Compact Tractors | 21.5-75 HP | John Deere US
The 1‐4 Series Compact Tractors from John Deere combine affordable ownership with convenient operation and a variety of implements for the many tasks you face.
There's a lot of changes happening at John Deere currently.
Key Points about John Deere's Indian Operations:
Manufacturing Hub: John Deere has significant manufacturing facilities in Pune (Sanaswadi) and Dewas, India.
Models Produced: The Indian plants focus on smaller-to-mid-range tractors (e.g., 35-89 HP), including the 5000 series (5D, 5E), which are suited for local needs and exported globally.
Global Exports: Tractors built in India are exported to the U.S., Mexico, Europe, Africa, and Southeast Asia, serving various farming needs, including small-holding and hobby farmers.
R-Series Distinction: While India produces tractors for global markets, the larger, high-horsepower R-Series (like the 7R, 8R, 9R) are typically manufactured in the United States (Waterloo, Iowa) for North American and major global markets, notes MachineFinder.
In short, John Deere leverages its Indian plants to build robust, cost-effective tractors that supply both India and international markets, but the very high-end R-Series models usually come from the US.
You joke, but I spent an hour today filling prairie dog holes and larger holes something unknown opened up. I put two trailcams up because whatever it is is tripping my prairie dog traps and not getting caught. Probably a chupacabra. Will provide pics if I get them. I don't need a tractor, I need a flamethrower for these bastards.
At some point, hopefully. It needs to happen, but would be a luxury this year. I'd like a limit of ducks hanging from the pallet forks.
Nice tractor you're looking at. I worked in the ag division and off road division for a total of about 17 years as a product designer for Deere. I wish I knew more about this series. I can tell you the "R" series is top of the line. It was reported this week (and verified by my son who works for Deere) a down turn in orders and economy has cause leadership to cancel all pay increases for salary and executive positions for 2026. Tariffs are not your friends! With that said don't expect much of a discount. They are pretty proud of these tractors. I'm surprised it's sitting on a lot but like they say location, location, location.
Edit: I'll add a little Info,
The John Deere 3039R compact utility tractor is primarily built and assembled at the John Deere factory in Augusta, Georgia, USA, part of the John Deere, though some components like frames come from Wisconsin and loaders from Mexico, with Yanmar engines sourced from Japan.
Key Locations & Components:
If you want to do a little light reading you might start here
- Assembly: Augusta, Georgia.
- Frames: Made in a sister factory in Wisconsin, USA.
- Engines: Sourced from Yanmar in Japan.
- Loaders: Assembled at a Deere plant in Mexico.
- Transmissions: Made in the USA.
Compact Tractors | 21.5-75 HP | John Deere US
The 1‐4 Series Compact Tractors from John Deere combine affordable ownership with convenient operation and a variety of implements for the many tasks you face.
Thanks Ed for the research, they are proud of them and I hope it pans out.
The sales guy is just relaying what he was told on the condition of the machine. I told him that I'd refuse it on delivery if it didn't live up to expectations as far as condition and he was not concerned. I'll get pictures from him tomorrow and make a decision then. No way I'm paying new prices for old stock, but I bet something will work out.
That's pretty far north for a chupacabra!
That is the exact angle I'm holding to with comparing with new MSRP, I know I could build a new one and get at least 5% off MSRP, which is where we are at with this one. They don't have it in hand, so there is transport, but I think there will be room. There is a great financing deal involved, with 0% for 60 months and while we could pay cash today - holding that money ourselves opens up a lot of options, not the least of just keeping it in the stock market earning.
You are 110% right on dragging it out, but we don't have the time. We are leaving here in a month and need to get it wrapped up. I don't want to take delivery on a tractor that I haven't seen and they don't have it to look at it. This stuff does take a toll too, I'll be honest. Given the cluster of the fall with the building we put up, neither Jen nor I have a lot of bandwidth to play games. I'm 100% OK with losing this, but I think I'm in an OK spot.
Northern Hairy-nosed chupacabra here.
Well, you cam use that to your advantage, too. Let him know you need to get a deal done by Monday with a guarantee the tractor is in your hands by the first week of January or you'll be waiting on a new one - should have a similar effect if he knows you'll not be doing any deal between your drop dead date and the end of the year. He may just have to work a little harder with his owner.
The last tractor I bought was a 5045D, it was a couple model years old and the dealer had been using it for some small jobs. It may have had 20-30 hours on it. I don't remember the discount vs new, but that was 15 years ago so wouldn't be applicable in today's market anyway - but tractors don't depreciate like cars (if they're maintained). I got a good chunk of what I put into it 8 years and a hundred and fifty or so hours later.
One thing I would negotiate is that they do a full service (oil and hydraulic fluid change, nut/bolt checks and retorqueing, grease in all the zerks, etc.) as part of the deal and before delivery. Even if it only has a couple hours on it, the fluids in it are a couple years old and bound to have picked up some water.
While I did have a giggle, I'd seriously like to see what the varmints underground maze looks like. They are interesting little critters, when they don't dig up your pasture.
Pics would be nice, but if you happen to bag a chupy, check for a band. I hear they have a program out there somewhere. If it's a nice bull, get a half mount. Word is the ass end is nasty.
roy brewington
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I think there was a movie similar to your predicament with the prairie dogs. Situated on a golf course. Maybe watch that for the stars approach!
I'm trying to get a handle on controlling them so I can keep their numbers down in the horse pastures when we have horses. I've tried shooting, filling their holes, trapping, smoke bombs, etc... AND explored in my head trying some explosives, filling the holes with spray foam, and building a homemade rodenator (a commercially available tool that loads propane and oxygen into the holes and then ignites it - killing the rodents and collapsing the burrows). I haven't seen the movie you reference in years, but what I remember is pretty close to my experience.
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While I did have a giggle, I'd seriously like to see what the varmints underground maze looks like. They are interesting little critters, when they don't dig up your pasture.
Pics would be nice, but if you happen to bag a chupy, check for a band. I hear they have a program out there somewhere. If it's a nice bull, get a half mount. Word is the ass end is nasty.
You and me both on understanding the maze. They are sneaky bastards, I had them all gone from an acre pasture in Sept and holes filled, but the holes are all open now. Watching their digging they can smell a hole from above and then open it up, once inside they open all the entrances from below, but I haven't figured out how extensive the underground tunnels are or what connects to what. Part of the issue is that they move around a lot from burrow to burrow, kinda nomadic. I'll get them almost all cleaned up or all cleaned up and I can tell when a badger is around because I'll trap a bunch as they flee the badger where they are and come into where I've cleaned up.
The only progress I've made is that once you clean up an area and remove the mounds that when they come back the mounds don't reappear, so you can quickly shovel or rake the holes full and leave things neat. The prairie dogs aren't really the problem since their holes are 4" in diameter, when the badger (or chupy) opens them up to 12" diameter then it is a worry for horses. Mostly this is an experiment to try to figure out to coexist (don't tell the ones that I killed that, though, might make for some hurt feelings).
I've read everything I can on control methods. Obviously poisoned feed or poison gas works, but they are all registered pesticides. There was/is a company that uses a big vacuum truck to suck them out of the tunnels.
If you ever get the urge to investigate the tunnel system, I'll loan you a shovel.
Capt Rich Geminski
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Check with farmers and contractors in the area about the service they get??? How do the tires look, sitting outside for years???
Look at the bright side. You're approaching the problem with a bit of curiosity, at least you might learn something and be entertained by the vermin. Many have become obsessed with exterminating them and have failed miserably, there's no satisfaction in that. Although a couple boxes of 22-250 at 400 yards is a hoot, even if long term failure is all but certain.
The vacuum truck sounds like a must see, I bet it's a catch basin vacuum. I'd want to have a clear section in the pipe so you can see them blow by. As a last ditch effort, I can see you with a pet honey badger. Deploying the beast down a PD hole like an atomic ferret. There's a guy in Ohio training them who has a bunch of good videos including walking them on leash and retrieving.
This is my vote! The ultimate multi-purpose pet... PD eradicator and duck retriever, then curled up in the bed with you at night!