Glen-L Sneakboat vs Devlin Broadbill
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I think the Broadbill is an extremely capable boat for its size and can do some things bigger boats can't, like disappear. One idea I've had over the years was to simply scale it up to 13' long and 5'5" wide which is about a 20% increase. That would give the operator a bit more room to move around and carry more decoys and a dog. Everyone's needs/preferences are different but that would be about as close to perfection I can imagine. Basically, the midpoint between my Broadbill and Brant. I'd make another hard dodger for it. One boat to do everything I like to do.
My experience with having a lot of trouble hiding the snowgoose this fall has me looking the smaller boats. I don't know what direction I'll go, I think I will try a season with a modified field blind as a hide using the snowgoose for transport and then reevaluate. Would be fun to build one, but I have plenty of projects on my plate the next few years.
Tod
I think you'd find another build will go much faster than the first. Especially with a boat much smaller than the snowgoose. I still have that BBSB hanging from my rafters that needs finishing and accessorized so I totally get dropping everything for a boat project isn't as easy as it once was.
I think you'd find another build will go much faster than the first. Especially with a boat much smaller than the snowgoose. I still have that BBSB hanging from my rafters that needs finishing and accessorized so I totally get dropping everything for a boat project isn't as easy as it once was.
I'm just glad that I hit the sweet spot with the snowgoose when I built and it served so well as a compromise boat for ducks and fishing and general transport. Back when I was young and poor (and more frugal), springing for that 40 hp seemed like quite a leap, I'm so glad I didn't go with a Black Brant or Cackler for my needs with the family. Having great places to hide a boat all these years with giant coastal boulder fields or steep mud or wooded banks has spoiled me. I'll get it figured out. I had some really fun simple walk in hunts this year with a bag of decoys, dog and gun. That really reminded me of the fun of duck hunting without the hassle of a boat. I have a couple years, I probably won't even duck hunt next fall at all, I'll have plenty of time to scheme.
Was scouting the other day and ran into a guy that drove "all day and night" from alabama to hunt ducks here. Didn't think I'd see that.
He must be in search of vast open spaces with little competition. I can relate.
Such a boat already exists but Sam does not have DIY plans for it. I've contacted him about it a couple times but have heard nothing back from him. Perhaps if enough people bugged him. RM
P.S. Great archives by the way!
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RM
Somehow, I missed that or forgot it existed. I know Sam has the Mallard and Bluebill which are similar in size to what I mentioned above. The Mallard has a lot of rocker and is best rowed. The original Bluebill I'm pretty sure was a 13' boat. Looks like the revision shortened it to 12', perhaps. I can't' tell if the Bluebill 12' has the Broadbill style cockpit (front and rear decks) or a cockpit like the original bluebill that was similar to the Brant series. I like the fact that Sam keeps working the designs to meet the needs of his customers. A very unique business model in this day and age.
Somehow, I missed that or forgot it existed. I know Sam has the Mallard and Bluebill which are similar in size to what I mentioned above. The Mallard has a lot of rocker and is best rowed. The original Bluebill I'm pretty sure was a 13' boat. Looks like the revision shortened it to 12', perhaps. I can't' tell if the Bluebill 12' has the Broadbill style cockpit (front and rear decks) or a cockpit like the original bluebill that was similar to the Brant series. I like the fact that Sam keeps working the designs to meet the needs of his customers. A very unique business model in this day and age.
One other thought. I bet if someone brought the idea of a Guenther Garvey style boat (like @CaptBobKeeney keeps making us drool over) in stitch and glue to Sam he'd come up with plans. I think they'd sell quite well.
CaptBobKeeney
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Eric and RM here are some photos of the Garvey i think you’ll enjoy the
for ideas it has a large cockpit for easy access
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Capt Bob,
What I love most is the stool rack. Decoy bags in a small boat take up way too much room. RM
Carl,
I have been reading about your boat building plans ever since I started lurking this site. Let this be the year! RM
CaptBobKeeney
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RM, the stool racks are a must but decoy bags aren’t bad if you gun with a small rig. Like i do 7 black ducks and a seagull.
noweil Mike
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Even with my 9.8 on the Broadbill it was fast. My girlfriend would sit on the front deck in the summer and it would get right up on plane with 2 of us. I could not imagine how fast it would be with a 15 hp it is rated for.
Unfortunately, barring a move back to Alabama, I doubt I will ever get to do a build.
I am toying with the idea of actually buying a license and stamps next season and at least getting the smokercraft & boatblind out to shoot a few bluebills down here on old Tampa Bay.
Now that my youngest is off the college, I have more time.
We'll see. Wonder if my 390 still works after sitting for 6 years???
I really love the lines of this boat! Nice work!!
Bob
In your above Garvey the hull is flat, as compared to the Carl Adams hull you have in the Resources section. I think I'd rather have a little deadrise like the Carl Adams boat does. Your preference?
In your above Garvey the hull is flat, as compared to the Carl Adams hull you have in the Resources section. I think I'd rather have a little deadrise like the Carl Adams boat does. Your preference?
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CaptBobKeeney
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Eric, it doesn’t matter to me both boats are well ha. But the Guenther Garvey being flat bottom and more of a kit boat that can be made by anyone since the plan were posted in popular mechanic's its all plywood it does have a 14 deg transom so it plains off pretty fast. The Carl adams tho has more deadrise was also build buy a professional boat builder that built boats from 10 to 50ft so it takes more skill to get the deadrise and shape of a adams tho it is a garvey it is not truly flat. And is make of all cedar and oak. I will put both boats side by side soon to show the differences of both builders.Bob
In your above Garvey the hull is flat, as compared to the Carl Adams hull you have in the Resources section. I think I'd rather have a little deadrise like the Carl Adams boat does. Your preference?
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