1890s scull delivered to me today!

Brad Taylor (NC)

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Lucked up and bought a circa 1890 scull off our own Mike Rowinsky who so graciously brought it to NC on their way to Fl. I have wanted a vintage scull for years and this one is a beauty (albiet in need of restoration). All of the bronze hardware is still there and it is thought the bung plug is the original. There is also a cover that you can see laying below the boat. I apologize for linking the pics to the Toller Boatworks Facebook page but I'm on the ipad, so its much more convenient. I'll be posting pics of the restoration and probably asking questions as I go. I definitely need some plans or ideas for a sculling oar to mate with her.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1012206642126339&id=115787938434885

Can't say enough about Mike, great guy and hope our paths cross again!

Brad
 
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Cool looking boat. What are the length and width? Does it have a hole for the sculling oar?

Looks more kayak-like to me, but in the pre-motor days a lot of boats were double-ended, so maybe some of the early sculls were make that way.

Looking forward to seeing this project!
 
Jeff, i edited the link do it shows all the photos. Definitely a sculler. Just got it this evening but will take some measurements tomorrow.

Brad
 
Thanks, Brad. That first picture made it look a lot narrower than it really is.

Now I'm REALLY interested in this rebuild.
 
Brad~

Great photos of a great boat.

re your thoughts about replacing the decks with plywood. You might want to consider covering it with canvas - especially if you'll be storing it inside. I know very little about sculls but many duckboats - scooters and punties - on Great South Bay had canvased decks. Painted canvas will last a long time if kept out of the weather. I will be restoring a Whaleback Scooter later this winter. Although it has been 'glassed, I may re-glass her below the gunwale/chine but use canvas up top.

Also, I'm wondering if you need to remove the planking. Would new caulking (cotton and seam compound) do the trick?

I look forward to your restoration.

Merry Christmas!

SJS
 
Neat boat! Get us some pics when you get it torn apart.


I should have bugged Mike to see it. I would have probably wanted to get it if I had!
 
that is a really great boat - wish i had room and time (there are three boat projects out there now- one barely under way two in the wings) I see so many incredible restorations on here

if the boat was originally canvased, IMHO that is the way to go, the boat I am working on was built with canvas and I just completed the unpleasant task of stripping off the fiberglass that was put on it.

the other two would have been calked, one is now fiberglassed, that will also come off.
 
From looking up under the deck, I don't believe it was originally a canvas boat. However, I will admit I am torn about the restoration. I am by no means a purist and I am planning on using her. At the same time, its such a neat piece I hate not to store it back to original form.

Brad
 
Brad~

Great photos of a great boat.

re your thoughts about replacing the decks with plywood. You might want to consider covering it with canvas - especially if you'll be storing it inside. I know very little about sculls but many duckboats - scooters and punties - on Great South Bay had canvased decks. Painted canvas will last a long time if kept out of the weather. I will be restoring a Whaleback Scooter later this winter. Although it has been 'glassed, I may re-glass her below the gunwale/chine but use canvas up top.

Also, I'm wondering if you need to remove the planking. Would new caulking (cotton and seam compound) do the trick?

I look forward to your restoration.

Merry Christmas!

SJS

I don't think the bottom planking needs to be removed. The top deck will need to be removed as there is some rot at the coaming and some braces that will need replacing. Good idea on the canvas. I'm going to wait until I get the decking off to figure out my gameplan.

Brad
 
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Had I seen it, it would not have gotten further south than Northern Virginia where Mike stopped off to hand off an old sail and boom from his sneakbox project. I didn't dare to open the sail yesterday... it is turing to dust! I will have to spread a big tarp and carefully open it to see if I can get the basic dimensions of what is left! Brad, I did not se the hull as it was wrapped in the tarp... that is a neat old boat!
 
Had I seen it, it would not have gotten further south than Northern Virginia where Mike stopped off to hand off an old sail and boom from his sneakbox project. I didn't dare to open the sail yesterday... it is turing to dust! I will have to spread a big tarp and carefully open it to see if I can get the basic dimensions of what is left! Brad, I did not se the hull as it was wrapped in the tarp... that is a neat old boat!

I'll be very honest, I feel very lucky to have her in my possession!

Brad
 
Got the hardware off and the rub rails off after digging out bondo from screw holes, cleaning the slots on well over a hundred flat head bronze screws! Working on removing the deck now. The decking is definitely cedar and still has her aroma. The coaming is going to be bear, as it iis very decomposed at the front. I am greatful the rear of the coaming is very sound so it will be possible to copy the curve. Its possible i may be able to salvage that section. It has a butt joint on with a backer that is braded on with 5 copper brads. I have decided to put her back as close to original as possible with the exception that will glass it once the restoration is complete. While I doubt it, I really hope the builder decided to write on the decking underneath.

https://www.facebook.com/1157879384...8434885/1013524315327905/?type=1&notif_t=like

Brad
 
Been getting a little work done. The inside is faired and the lower ribs that needed replacing have been replaced as well as a few of the cockpit braces and board that ran the length of each side. Got a little bit more sanding to do, but the cold weather makes for some slow cure times on the fairing putty. Took the opportunity to flip it over and do some sanding.
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Here she is flipped prior to any sanding.
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Should have my lumber for the top decks, coaming, and rub rails in a couple of weeks.
Brad
 
Talk about a blind stroke of luck!! I have been researching the history of this float. I managed to contact the owner previous to Mike, he gave me a little bit more information and made me realize how close this boat was to being lost. When he acquired it, it was sheathed in glass and poly resin which also included some kind of fiberboard that was glassed to the top. It was outside and so water logged it took 4 people to load it into a pickup. Regardless, he stripped the glass and let it dry in his barn for over a year.

Well, stepping ahead to yesterday. I started delving around Mystic Seaport's online resources where I typed in the search string scull. There were 147 hits with most of them being text links. I scrolled for a minute and then clicked on sort by pictures where this was about the 5th pic to come up!!

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http://mobius.mysticseaport.org/detail.php?t=objects&type=all&f=&s=scull&record=17

I am 99.9% certain, that they were the maker of the boat in my possession.

First, Brooks Boat Co. was based out of New Haven, CT during the 1880s. Making it quite fathomable for the boat to wind up in NH and matching what the previous owner had passed along, that the boat was "factory built circa 1890".

The cover is the exact same shape and built with the exact same locking mechanism.

The boat in the picture was obviously canvas decked and it looks to have some type of rail holding the canvas around the edges. My boat, has no cotton caulking between any of the decking seams (while still having plenty between the hull seams) and there are screw holes in the decking consistent to what would have been a rail.

Next up, my coaming has these little blocks with notches for a board that served as what I assumed to be for a seat mount. The seat in the picture would fit into them perfectly.

Lastly and one of the big ones for me, you can see in the photo some kind of rope going around interior of the coaming. I assume it was for placing vegetation, although I'm not 100% of its purpose. However, my boat has several bronze eyelets with the remnants of some type of shockcord (obviously a later replacement to the rope) and there are also holes in the coaming that match up with where the missing eyelets would have been.

Regardless, I'd love to hear what you guys think.

As for the restoration, I'm keeping the boat as true as form to possible but still making her a functional, lasting float. The inside is done minus a little more sanding. The center board had deteriorated some prior to the previous owner saturating it with West Systems epoxy. While extremely solid when I received it, the port side of it needed to be built back up to height which I did using cabosil thickened epoxy. All of the seams, gouges, nail holes, screw holes and cracks have been filled. Assuming the last of my fairing putty has set, I will do a final sand on the hull this evening and it will be ready for glass. I've looked into canvas decking but am probably going to go the faux route which involves using 8 oz glass, squeegeeing the epoxy after applying the layer of glass and not filling the weave.

Still waiting on my kiln dried cypress for the decks and have the ash & white oak for the remaining braces and coaming.

Give me just a second to edit this post from my phone and I'll add some photos of the restoration (can't access photobucket from work).





Brad
 
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