20 gauge duck loads

Hi Craig:

I use a 20 gauge o/u and have found Hevi
Shot Pheasant, 7/8oz. of # 6 shot to be an effective load to shoot. It's velocity is 1250fps. Recoil is manageable for an old guy using an o/u. It patterns very tight so open up the chokes for over decoy shooting. I do a lot of pass shooting at Wood Ducks so my target ranges can vary greatly. It's a very effective 40 yard load.

I've also had success with Kent Tungsten Matrix #5 out of the 20 gauge. These shells pattern much like lead. Patterns are more open.

Best of luck with your new 20 gauge.

On an unrelated note, as a South Jersey guy, I enjoyed the videos you posted to You Tube last season. Fun stuff.

Regards,

Dave
Southern NJ
 
Thanks Dave. As the gunning got better and better last season I had to dial back the videos, I have gigs of great footage but unfortunately hunting public land one needs to be selective in what they post, unless they want 10 guys there next time they go [cool]
 
Sorry I can't offer 20 gauge specific advice, other than hevishot or similar shot types are my favorites for waterfowl in any gauge. I wouldn't go back to lead if it was legal. This discussion has, however, made me reconsider bismuth, I ordered a bunch of 12 gauge, 3"- #4's today. I tried it back in the 90's when the first generation of factory bismuth shells came around and was unimpressed. Good reports here and elsewhere convinced me to give it another try. Now to find some ducks to try it out.
 
I "field patterned" some Boss #5s...

Nice way to break in the M2 20, full limit with a nice pintail to cap it off. I doubled on my first go around on black ducks and 'pillow cased' them just puffs of feathers. Even birds I wasn't right on and looked like potential cripples were DOA when they hit the water. Very impressive so far.

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Nice!
Don't be surprised when you clean them if there is a shattered piece of shot or two. It does still happen with bismuth but not as much as it use to. Its nontoxic, I think of it as built in pepto bismol.
 
What ranges to you estimate you were shooting your birds at and did you stick with your improved cyl. choke in the 20?
 
roy brewington said:
What ranges to you estimate you were shooting your birds at and did you stick with your improved cyl. choke in the 20?

I stuck with the IC, I was in the 15-25 yard range. I think I need to tighten my choke up a bit, maybe switch to a mod but I want to pattern both first when I get a chance. From what I understand bismuth patterns more similar to lead so you can shoot a tighter choke vs steel. I'm used to the IC with steel.
 
Thats also what i,ve heard about Bismuth. But if your consistently getting birds in that close imp. cyl. works. Mod. with Bismuth would probably be best in the 20 from 30 to just over 40. But you never know till you put some on paper or feathers! Wad design can drasticasly change the way chokes pattern from the norm.
 
Good point about the wads effect on pattern Roy. A friend thought he saw fiber wads on the ground when shooting Boss ammo last week. I'm expecting some Boss shells tomorrow, I always cut one open when I try something new. Curious to see copper plated bismuth too.
 
Shooting 20 for everything for over 15 years now...I started shooting a 11-87 and have moved on to a A400. In either case I still shoot both guns throughout season but my A400 is shot the most. I have tried Kicks, Patternmaster and Carlson Choke tubes in both guns and have spent in upwards of near $700 over the years finding the right choke to have a closer center mass. In some cases buying several of the same size chokes to pattern my gun to both Hevi-Metal and steel. I have two difference chokes I shoot of the same size choke when I change from steel to Hevi-Metal in my A400. It sounds silly but it works differently on pattern density to center mass even in the same gun.

Worst Cast if I needed shells:
Winchester Drylock is preferred
No. 2, 3 Inch Steel with Improved Modified Choke not matter what time of season. Denser pattern at close ranges help with steel.

Hevi-Metal:
Since Hevi-Metals (pre change to Bismuth when they were loaded with Tungsten). I have shot this round solely since they started being produced:
- No. 2, 3 Inch ( ducks, geese and sandhills)
Extended Carlson Skeet Choke on Decoying birds...Early season choice (use same choke when layout diver hunting)
Extended Carlson Improved Modified for later in season...Though I try to limit my shot distances this handles well into the 50 yard range and up. I certainly don't like taking these shots due to my lower percentage of on target. Downside with this choke is shot density. If like me you left the skeet choke at home when birds are decoying then you might as well let them fly out a little before taking shots or aim for the head. It will decapitate a bird at close ranges or do major damage to the breast.

Hevi-X:
Shot last year a few weekends in a row. I did not notice any difference in performance at ranges within 40 yards over Hevi-Metals. But both loads are more lethal over steel shot. Honestly don't believe it is worth spending $40+ per box. I am not a sky buster during season but I will take a shot at a bird here in there if it is slow. If you choose to shoot at extended ranges it is absolutely deadly. I did take a bet in the blind one day over a pair of snow geese. We were discussing gauges, ranges and shell size. It mainly was just banter on how a little man like myself had too much gun in the blind using a 20 gauge versus his 3.5 Inch loads he was slinging down range. Once the pair started passing over the blind probably in range of 60 to 70 yards and I told him I could kill that bird on the left and he could not kill the one on the right. In 2 shots the bird I shot at was folding out the sky dead. He took all 3 rounds and never even stopped the bird except you could hear the pellets hitting the bird and bouncing off the chest but with no damaging effect. Tungsten is no joke to shoot. But I would have to save in advance to shoot this all season since I go through at least a case prior to Spring Snow goose.

Hevi-Bimuth:
Shot Bismuth in the past with great success. I had never shot Hevi-Metals version until this season, very lethal. Decided to pickup a case of Hevi-Bismuth this year. This year during early goose season here in Kentucky every goose I shot was lights out. All shot within 30 yards.

Now you may think I am hypocritical in terms of speaking of improved alloy loads over steel. Steel does have its place in my tool box of shot shells. Especially when I am in a pinch to buy shells at local stores or flat out short on cash. The one factor difference to me between Steel vs. Bimuth, Tungsten or ITX is the lethality of the loads. In a 30 yard distance I never have to even ring a gooses neck when hit with Hevi-Metal, Hevi-X or Bismuth vs Steel. It is more expensive but to me well worth the ability to have a clean kill versus a crippled bird. I by no means a person to put myself in an ivory tower and if needed I have no problems slinging steel shot down range.

In all, it certainly depends on what you are willing to pay out of pocket. If they were all the same price it certainly would be a Bismuth or Tungsten based loads.
 
The Boss 12 gauge/3"/1.375 oz of #4's arrived. Cut one open for a looksee, nice round shot and a slightly short plastic shotcup. Counted pellets twice, average 198. The shot is pretty frangible, one tap with a hammer and it's pulverized. I guess it'll need to be patterned to determine if pellets come apart on firing. The shells look like quality loadings, the crimps are nice and uniform. Looking forward to trying it out.
 
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