28 gauge steel wads

Lee,

Those mylar wraps adn overshot cards make nice confetti. I had a couple boxes of hevishot handloads once and you would shoot them and just watch a shower of stuff rain down.

T
 
Tod, The ones I have loaded now just have the overshot card. I have seen a little white fleck fly off to the left a couple times. My buddy was shooting 3 1/2" Black Cloud..or whatever they call it..the first few shots from that and we were all betting how far the big old badmitten birdy wad would fly. You could see it going right at the bird and I bet it went 40 yards. It was a bit distracting to see those big black wads out the corner of your eye when trying to get on your bird. As a recommendation to whomever wanted to know about that stuff....it seemed to work really good but you still have to hit the bird..same with the Hevi Shot too.
 
and predicated on the fact that while I own a 28 ga reloader I've yet to load a single shell of any content with it, I'm told, by those that know about such things, that the reason there are no commerical steel loads for 28 ga's, no componants for 28 ga steel loads and no published recipes for 28 ga steel loads is because they are dangerous as hell....pressures in a 28 ga hull are HIGH even in the 3/4 oz lead loads and when you start tinkering with shit like the same volume of steel shot, which weighs less than the lead its replacing, that those pressure escalate rapidly to dangerous levels......levels that exceeds what the guns were built to handle, (and this is particularly true when you're sending steel down the barrel of a guns whose barrels are soldered together).

Like Dave says the 28 was never inteded to be a waterfowl gun, and thats even more true with steel loads, and if you are trying to make it into one it sure sounds to me like you better be willing to pay for stuff that mimics lead, or conversely, just have the desire to see if your hands, and face, will survive the explosion that occurs when you touch off that little 2-3/4" stick of dynamite you just loaded into your toy gun......

Obviously some people are getting away with it.....heck some people still shoot lead and get away with it.....and they will, till they don't......exploded guns and fingers and faces are not pretty things and I would think that keeping them in their present condition would be worth a little increased price for componants, (or loaded shells)...

Worth exactly what you paid for it as they say....

Steve
 
after the comment about my unibrow my feelings were so hurt that I just couldn't bring myself to take any additional abuse from a friend......

Steve
 
Hmmmm....I don't think the reason is safety...I think, like all things sporting goods related that it is monetary. Until there is interest enough by the public to create a profit for a company, nothing will be done to supply the product. The 28ga works with the same SAAMI pressure maximums that all guages do so if you load a round that creates 12,500 psi, SAAMI max for 28ga, there should be no more risk of explosion than shooting a factory round which, we all know are infallable and impeccable. I'll give you 50 bucks now for your 28 ga since in the very short future you won't be able to shoot guns with lead...and because of that...you will be unable to buy factory lead shells because they got the lead out.


P.S. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings.
 
maiking is that its very hard for handloaders to control the pressures in a 28 ga hull.....its easy to do it in a 12 ga hull and as the hull size gets smaller the operation is more critical and frankly beyond most people that just want to pull a handle and get a loaded shell with every pull.....

I'd disagree with your assessment that its all monetary because if that was the case there would at least be published receipes for loads.....no need to worry about "profit" there but theres a huge level of "responsibility" when some dumbass doesn't do what he's told, they way he was told or has an out of whack machine and ends up loading something "different" than the receipe.......

Do that with "light" loads in a 12 and you can get away with it....do that with the 28 and the bi time reloaders that I know tell me you'll suffer the consequences....

No you're not....

Steve
 
Time is money and working up loads that are idiot proof would cost a bundle and if their were enough people asking for them so they could sell the components, they would put forth the time, effort and moolah. I agree with all the other you wrote though. The loads I am using have been pressure tested by a ballistic lab and are well under max pressure. Also, as a habit of mine from years of reloading metallic cartridges, I start a few grains short and work up watching for signs of pressures since every chamber is an individual.


Your right.
 
Sorry,I already have one,I shoot lead in.You still have the opprotunity to buy Bizmuth loads from Macks.Just forget trying to load steel/Hevi-shot in the 28.The gun is OK.I looked at one today.Its built on a 12ga frame and heavy.Fine for ducks,just need some ammo.
 
Jim, how many shots at ducks do you average a year?Natches shooters supplies had 28ga bismuth ammo for 14.69 per 10 round box on close out .The flyer shows 4,5,6 and 7 1/2 .6's work well on decoyed ducks. Check them online, if they still have some it would be cheaper than reloading no-tox. Click on their flier on the right and I think it's on page 12 or 13.

www.natchezss.com
 
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Joe O'
I was just kidding about selling it. I thought it would be fun to take along as an extra gun to shoot over decoys. I hadn't shot a sxs in years. My Beretta is my duck gun. I will load #6 lead 28 gauge for pheasant and as you and Lee have said buy the factory loads of non toxic. I will be heading North with my Swedish Mauser (sportorized) 308 to hunt deer on my son's 45 acres in just a few hours. You have a good weekend.
Jim
 
Hey, you Old Cowboyl--I have a few years on you but still not too old to listen to you younguns! I don't plan on using the 28 for my duck gun--just as a side gun for fun and as Joe O, Lee, Pete, and even Steve (bless his heart) have said BUY, don't Load. I'm heading North with my 308 and will forget ducks for the weekend. With my luck this year the Mississippi will probably be black with ducks on pool 11 heading South over my blind??
Jim
 
Well.....not to distract you from deer hunting....but....I got a report yesterday that the ducks on the Mississippi were thicker than one older gent had ever seen. Take a duck gun with you!
 
Lee, Your stirring, your stirring. (; ) I heard some shots out on the lake this morning while I was trying to concentrate on deer hunting. My duck hunting equipment being put away. Your stirring. A light snow is coming down. I like hunting ducks in the snow. Rub it in, Stir stir.
 
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