Air tools vs electric power tools

Rutgers

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Can anyone tell me advantages of one over the other when it comes to the tool hitting the wood. I have been using electric die grinders 4.5 amps at 24,000 Rpms. Looks like 20,000 rpms is about standard at 90 psi. I have shop air that will keep up with the tool no problem. Also thinking about angle grinders with the flap discs too but haven't loomed into Roma and power or anything yet.

I am also wondering about vibration. Thanks

Paully
 
Paul,

Not a lot of time right now for an extended reply but one quick note. Air tools need lubed, this lube ends up in the exhaust air exiting the tool. Rear exhaust tools are best but sometimes you will still end up with oil on your finished product. Electric grinders don't have this problem as much.
 
less vibration is usually noted. Tools generally last a lot longer as well. Dave's point should not be underappreciated.....oil will get on the project. If you are oil base painting, not as big of a deal.

What kind of Air compressor do you have?
 
General personal observations; Air tools are much lighter but significantly louder than their electric counter parts. Electric tools need to be vented for cooling which draws dust in. The dust will reduce the cooling effect, shortening the tools life unless blown out or disassembled and cleaned fairly often. If there are metal particles in that dust the windings can short out, destroying the motor. And finally there's less likelihood of getting shocked by air tools ;^).

Scott

PS: Portability goes to the electric tools. You can plug them in almost anywhere, including your vehicle if you have it set up for it.
 
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Paul,

Not a lot of time right now for an extended reply but one quick note. Air tools need lubed, this lube ends up in the exhaust air exiting the tool. Rear exhaust tools are best but sometimes you will still end up with oil on your finished product. Electric grinders don't have this problem as much.


Maybe he can lubricate with a nice food grade mineral oil and be one step ahead on his spoons.
 
Tod et al~

My "Learn by Spending" file (sadly, a pretty big file that just keeps getting bigger) has a chapter on substituting lubricating oils in air tools. I made the mistake of putting some 3-in-1 in my Porter-Cable nail gun - because I could not find the little bottle of oil I should have used. Ruined the seals - I think the repair was more than half the replacement cost....

On the other hand, maybe adding a little balsamic vinegar to some extra-virgin olive oil may be just the right mix....does Kitchenaid make a compressor????

SJS
 
I've been using air tools for 42 years. They need very little oil. I oil mine maybe four times a year with a drop or two. Much less then recommended but that is all that is needed and I use them every day. They run cool. variable speed. better control, safer. Better most any way you look at it. In most cases electric tools run too fast in my opinion. The only electric sander I have in variable speed. I only use it when air is not there. The air tools sold at home Depot or Lowes will hold up to the average user. I use Hutchins air tools which I think are the best made in America air tools.

Tom.
 
good stuff on air tools...one real gremlin with air tools is water...air is notorious for having water in it...the big industrial supply stores sell water separators & lubricators...they can be set to filter out the water that is always present in air lines...the lubricators can be set to deliver miniscule amounts of oil to the tool continuously...but!,be aware that not all air tools require oil, check the manufacturer...i have a couple die grinders that expressly state that they should be ran oil free...also...the old saying is that "air costs money..."...air is inefficient,every time the compressor comes in you are running a 1 hp motor versus a much smaller motor in a grinder or sander...i love air tools....
 
Water can be an issue. The trick is to cool the air before running it through a separator. I have mine running through a coil in a 55gal drum full of water then two water separators. I don't like auto oilers. The air line becomes saturated with oil and if your doing any painting that will cause a lot of problems. Air tools last longer then electric. At least for me there the only way to go. Good luck.

Tom.
 
I have three different setups, each has it's place.

Electric die grinders:
pros; very portable , can be relatively low cost as only one item to purchase
cons; a bit bulky in the hand for fine work, because the motor is in your hands they are heavier than other choices, tend to get warm, internal cooling fan really stirs up the dust

Electric flex shaft grinders:
pros; portable, small handle(s) =better fit in hand, can run for hours and hours with little maintenance, can be run both clockwise and counter clockwise, variable speeds are nice
cons; good ones are higher priced initial investment,

air tools;
pros; light weight, can be had at low cost (for just the tool only), good amount of power and torque, no harm done if you stall the tool out ( no motor to burn up or shaft to break)
cons; exhaust air can stir up a lot of dust, cold in hands to operate in unheated garage during winter, oil in exhaust air can get on your project, added cost of compressor to provide the air required.


Good point about the airline getting saturated with oil if you also use it for painting. What I do is run a tee after my water separator and before my in line oiler. The air tools run off the line with oil and the paint guns run off the line with out oil. I don't interchange the hoses for either.

For my carving needs, I primarily use a flex shaft, specifically a Foredom.

There really is no one choice that will be best for everyone's situation. Heck, I've seen some guys using axes and gouges and knives. ;>) ;>)
 
Thanks for all the replies. I am not overly concerned with s little oil as this will be early enough in the process that any accidental oil will be getting fine carved or sanded off. Not sure how big the compressor is in the building but it's about half the size of my truck!!
 
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