another vetern waterfowler (gun) will see the marsh again

[Rick L]

From previous discussions, i know there are a few other double gun fans on the board

so I figured some might like to see this new find

a 1926 field grade Ithaca Super 10.

I've tried to find an honest one for a while, so the fourth time's the charm

I finally found one with proper full chokes and unmolested chambers. Metal is honestly worn, but it does need wood work. The top of the stock head needed repair on both sides and the comb at some point was sanded down so someone could use their left eye, once again a story lost to time, war injury? simple accident?

I'll fill that gap and use it as a pattern to build a new stock, but will shoot it ugly this season

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[roy brewington]

What load & shell length do you shoot in an old ten like that. Got an old 10 Remington hammer double that belonged to my grandfather when he hunted the flats. Think its worn way to bad to ever think about shooting but I,m sure it could be rebuilt.

 

[Rick L]

The Ithaca Super Ten has 2 7/8 chambers - as were most old 10 gauge doubles

The NID 10 was introduced in 1925 as an 8 1/2 pound 2 7/8 gun, then redesigned in 1932 (starting with serial number 500000) to be a 10 1/2 pound behemoth to handle the then new 3 1/2 inch 10 magnum round.

i have several loads for both lead for clays and non-tox for hunting - from 1 1/8 to 1 1/2 ounces - i keep the pressure and speed reasonable (low pressure for the metal, low recoil for the wood with the old guns)

mostly i hunt 1 1/4 loads - if anyone has one that is safe to shoot- there is a spread sheet of short ten loads on the Parker Gun Collector's board, many of us have had loads tested for that list

http://parkerguns.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=21 the data is in the first sticky.

 

[Bill Clark]

Rick, In reference to the sanded stock on the 10 ga. Could have been a right hand shooter that found out he was left eye dominant.

 

[Rick L]

Rick, In reference to the sanded stock on the 10 ga. Could have been a right hand shooter that found out he was left eye dominant.

That is the other possibility, I always wish I knew who carried these old fowlers and where.

 

[scott kittredge]

Rick,
I have 2 of the super 10's I shot crows with mine Sunday with 1 1/8 oz 6's and it was hitting them hard at 40 ys +. these guns shoot tight patterns and you will find that 1 1/4 oz to 1 3/8th oz loads of bismuth shoot just fine for ducks and geese.
scott

 

[Rick L]

Rick,
I have 2 of the super 10's I shot crows with mine Sunday with 1 1/8 oz 6's and it was hitting them hard at 40 ys +. these guns shoot tight patterns and you will find that 1 1/4 oz to 1 3/8th oz loads of bismuth shoot just fine for ducks and geese.
scott

Thanks Scott,

i've seen yours on the PGCA board. I posted this one there as well.

I do hunt with my Parker 10's as do several others in the group. - that's a PH 10 32" 3 frame with the pup in the avitar. The barrels alone on that one are marked 6lbs 7oz as the pre struck weight, the Ithaca will be a wand compare to that one.

 

[scott kittredge]

Rick,
I have 2 of the super 10's I shot crows with mine Sunday with 1 1/8 oz 6's and it was hitting them hard at 40 ys +. these guns shoot tight patterns and you will find that 1 1/4 oz to 1 3/8th oz loads of bismuth shoot just fine for ducks and geese.
scott

Thanks Scott,

i've seen yours on the PGCA board. I posted this one there as well.

I do hunt with my Parker 10's as do several others in the group. - that's a PH 10 32" 3 frame with the pup in the avitar. The barrels alone on that one are marked 6lbs 7oz as the pre struck weight, the Ithaca will be a wand compare to that one.

Rick,

I know you did shoot 10's, I meant that when I pattern different 10 ga guns, the Ithaca short 10 shoot the tightest patterns.
good luck this fall!! , scott

 

[Rick L]

Rick,

I know you did shoot 10's, I meant that when I pattern different 10 ga guns, the Ithaca short 10 shoot the tightest patterns.
good luck this fall!! , scott

ahh. thanks, so far my tightest is a Clabrough that patterns an honest 92% at 40 yards - i like to eat my ducks so i just shoot cays with that one- i miss a lot but when i am on, there are no chips lol

I plan to have the dished out stock filled in by the end of the week. the head repair i did Monday looks good and solid. so i'l be at the pattern board next week. i have bismuth, Kent TM and nice shot loaded up in several sizes.

and i'll get the Ithaca out for clays in the next week or two as well

four weeks to go - between the Ithaca and and the Fox this year will be a 'super' year in the marsh (well ok the Elsie longranges will get some rotation too)

 

[L.Bush]

I know that Briley makes tubes to take doubles down a gauge. It would make general trap & early season a breeze if ya could use 12 gauge ammo.

 

[Rick L]

I know that Briley makes tubes to take doubles down a gauge. It would make general trap & early season a breeze if ya could use 12 gauge ammo.

nah, what is the fun in that []
i have two loaders set up for short tens, and several of my friends shoot them as well- they are real target crushers

for clays we all load 1 1/8 oz (club limit) - with the weight of the guns ( this one is svelte at 8lbs 10oz - most are around 10, one friend in the group has a 6 frame Parker with 36 inches barrels that weighs 15 lbs) recoil is not noticeable

actualy heading out the door for a round of big bore clays now


a PS
the new acquisition did its job well, although, some how it chipped a couple targets

but when i got it right it smoked them - when one close up true pair disappeared and my one friend joked - well, we aren't eating those ducks [w00t]

a low flight of geese came over at the end thumbing their noses at us (or feathering their bills) and they looked good over those wide tubes