attention diver/seaduck hunters

1/3rd of my bluebill decoys are repainted flambeau mallards. The old style flambeau hens, the squat ones with the really wide bills & rectangle keels, especially make great bluebill decoys. Just paint the bills blue & put on a white face patch for hens. For drakes, same bill blue color and some black & white rustoleum for the bodies.

I have a diver call and have flagged with my hat but I don't know if it works or they were just coming my way any how?
Some guys hunting from layouts use flags, seem to work in that situation.
Dont use any motion decoys, dont care for them. I think money spent on more decoys is a better investment.

Good luck with it, diver hunting is addictive!
 
No doubt diver hunting is addictive, at least to some! Don't get me wrong, I enjoy seeing decoying ducks and geese period. But after seeing numerous puddle ducks and geese decoy throughout the season. It's nice to be able to get into something a little different when the divers make it down. And who could NOT enjoy seeing the divers scrafing the water, banking and turning towards your spread? I took my brother out on his first diver hunts this year, he LOVED it! He was amazed at how low most birds came in, and how fast they were flying. He was also excited about seeing the various divers that we encountered. He said he had no clue some of the birds even existed, and that the birds looked like they should belong in a foreign land. He had hunted with me in the past a few times, but we always hunted for puddle ducks and geese. So a few days of diver hunting he added some species to his "harvested list". Up until this year neither of us had harvested a Redhead (my brother hadn't even seen one). One mid-morning the majority of the ducks had made their morning flights and we were waiting for the goose action to heat up. As we sat there in the layout blinds along the Ohio river a small flock of birds came dropping out of the sky. As they passed by us I whispered "Divers !! get down !! No sooner as the words left my mouth the birds passed usright out of gun range and headed for the center of the river. I grabbed a mallard call and fluttered my tongue to give some diver calls. They banked hard and turned towards us. The birds decoyed great and as they were in front of us no more than 15 yrds out i called the shot. Three birds dropped and the two remaining birds made their way up river. I looked at him and said " That's awesome, we just killed our first Redheads and they are all drakes!" Looking at him all I could see was wide eyes and a big smile through his facemask. After retrieving the birds he sat and admired their beauty. It wasn't long and a single hen Redhead made it's way to the decoys, my brother finished off his limit of two with her. I wonder if she wasn't one of the two that made it out the first volley. He is getting the pair of Redheads he shot mounted. I believe he is now either addicted to divers, or dang close. He is talking about wanting to make a trip out of state next season to go diver and/or seaduck hunting.
I bought a Mojo Mallard when they first came out, and added a Mallard Machine soon after. They helped somedays, and hurt some others. But to me they were worth the money. These days they sit and collect dust. I havent had them out in quite awhile.
The things I wondered about are ..... if the wing motion of the Mojo wouldn't help catch the low flying divers' eyes, and if one would attach smaller decoys such as Bufflehead to the Mallard Machine if instead of tipping motion, it would cause diving motion, and help in sealing the deal on some "extra" birds.
I have used painted Mallard decoys in the past, and it has worked well on the divers for me. The only problems I see by doing this is that the aqua keels just dont ride the rougher water worth a crap. Have you ever tried adding sand, or lead to the keels to give them a little weight so they ride better?
 
Many years ago, when I first started duck hunting... the first decoys I bought were a couple dozen Carrylite aquakeels. I used a screw driver and propane torch to fuse the hole on the front end first, then filled the keel with play sand. Filled the larger hole first with a hot glue gun, then melted the plastic over with the screwdriver and torch. They rode much better, but still crappy decoys! Paint never stuck to them, but didn't need to take care of them either!

In the decoys that have the square through hole keels, I have seen guys use the strap wieghts or cut strips of lead flashing and feed it through and bend over on the ends to hold it in too.

Dave
 
Thanks for the reply Dave. My first season I bought some decoys off an old man from a nearby town. In those decoys there were some decoys rigged with strap weights in the keels, I figured they were used to self-right themselves and don't remember how well they rode the water compared to the aqua-keels that didn't have the extra weight, but figured it would help. When hunting out of a boat in deeper water, do y'all use anything attached to your boat anchor/anchors to support it during a quick detach? If so, what do you use? This weather we are getting right now has me thinking of divers in a big way. Wishing season was still in.
 
I have both Carrylite and Flambeau's that were aquakeels.
The Carrylights (which are the old aquakeel Best Buys), I filled the front hole with hot glue and then poured in sand, then hotglue sealed the back end. They hold a pile of sand. Made them ride much better. Funny thing is that the paint on these Carrylites has held up just fine over the last 8 years. Guess with Carrylite, it just depends on which batch you got. I would love to find a couple of dzn of these old aquakeel Best Buy bluebills in good shape at a good price.

On the Flambeaus, I have poured in sand & sealed them with hot glue or silicone or glued in strap weights. Both work fine.

Anchoring: I have a bouy on my anchor line. If I have to leave to motor after a bird, I unhook the line from the cleat & toss the line & bouy into the water. Then re-tie when I get back. Most guys who hunt open water use this system.
 
Thanks again Carl. Do you use both a headline, and sternline? I suppose it would depend on how many are hunting and your spread. But had to ask. Looks like you shoot some Redheads and Bluebills down that way. NICE !
 
We normally have a pile bluebills with a smattering of redheads and cans. Lots of buffies too. Very few GEs, only once since 1997 have I killed more than 1 GE in a season.

I normally do not use a stern anchor, just a bow anchor.
If its calm enough to set up cross wind, we just use the cane to hold the boat in place, no anchors at all.
 
I'm assuming you get a mixture of Greater (Broadbill), and Lesser (Bluebill) Scaup? This was my first season to harvest a Redhead, awesome birds! I haven't shot a Canvasback in years. I really wish we got more divers here. The lack of harvesting Goldeneyes, amazes me. How many do you estimate you see during an average season there? Hunting along the coast i figured you would see good numbers of Pintails, and Wigeon as well. As far as the anchors, I was curious. Chances are I'll be anchoring in much deeper water than you are. I guess the best thing to do is get out next season and try different things out. Just asking questions to get ideas, and cut back on the learning curve. Thanks again
 
I'm assuming you get a mixture of Greater (Broadbill), and Lesser (Bluebill) Scaup? This was my first season to harvest a Redhead, awesome birds! I haven't shot a Canvasback in years. I really wish we got more divers here. The lack of harvesting Goldeneyes, amazes me. How many do you estimate you see during an average season there? Hunting along the coast i figured you would see good numbers of Pintails, and Wigeon as well.


We do get greaters & lessers, but they are not normally mixed. Normally, the lessers stick to the fresher/brackish areas and the greaters on the saltier water. But in some years they forget to read the book, this was the first year I took a greater and lesser at the same spot on the same day. Greaters are really hefty birds, big & fat like redheads.

If I see a GE during the season I get excited. Most years we may see 1 or 2, maybe. One year (02-03?), we had more than usual and I killed 4. I haven killed or shot at one since '04-05 season.

Not many pintails or wigeon here in most years either, I may kill one of each in a year. The last 3 years, I have not taken either. They tend to stay west of us in MS Delta and coastal LA & TX. Historically (40-70's) this area wintered a lot of pintails but that changed for some reason.
 
It's funny how I invision areas of the country and then I learn I'm so wrong. Figured you would get a wide variety of puddle ducks, divers, and even some seaducks. I've shot two greaters ever. Both killed on the Ohio River (drake and hen).
 
I also leave a bouy attached to my bow anchor line. It saves time re-anchoring after a retrieve, especially in spots where it's tough to get a hold with the anchor or where you're anchored up tight to cover and it's tough to get the boat positioned just right. However I usually just haul and toss the stern anchor each time. We often are anchored in 25+ feet of water.

I have filled aqua-keels with sand and siliconed the ends shut. It did keep the decoys upright, although I agree that they were cheap decoys.

The flag and diver call don't always help, but they have worked on enough occasions to make it worth having them.
 
The best system I've found for anchoring the boat is to set both bow and stern anchors firmly (it typically takes a couple tries) and attaching them together with a buoy that has a Long line clip attached to both sides. when you need to leave to retrieve birds you can just uncleat the line from the boat (cleating both bow and stern will "lock" the boat in place), drop the bouy over, and go. When you come back, you can be assured the boat is in the same exact place it was before since you have two anchors...the buoy essentially replaces the boat.

This system requires alot of anchor line but I have sucessfully used it in as much as 50' of water.

I can take a picture if anyone wants...maybe easier seen than explained.
 
Thank You John and Bill. Any photos would be appreciated. As well as tips and suggestions. As mentioned before I have very limited diver hunting experience, and no seaducking what so ever.
 
Craig That High head can looks great!

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Last years Pictures, never really got any good ones this year, need a new canon D!
 
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