Best color choice for layout boat

Wesley Bouchelle

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Hello, I just bought a used UFO layout boat that is i need of some paint. I am unsure what color i should be going with. I was looking the FME paints from lock stock and barrel and some of them looked like they would be good. We have a little bit of dark green water here in NJ seeing what everyone would use.
 
I have seen layout boats with grey paint and a clear splash shield. I have hunted out of them and they blend right into the water.
 
You should talk to my gunning partner Rick. I have no problem gray silver. He swears the water is green, PM me and I'll pass on his info.
Phil
 
The "color" of water is a direct function of both the incident angle sunlight strikes the water's surface at, as well as what wave-bands of light in the visible spectrum are either reflected or absorbed by particles in solution and suspension within the upper portion of the water column.
 
I've noticed in pictures where we hunted a grey layout next to a greenish boat that on sunny days the Grey boat disappears. On cloudy days the greenish boat is less noticeable.

I've often thought that a mirror coating and clear spray shield might be the answer, if your not afraid to be different.
I know there are a couple members here that have done it but I never saw it in action.
 
Good morning, Wesley~

This topic is one that brings out strong opinions....

It seems almost every approach has been tried - each with undeniable success.

I grew up shooting from a White Scooter on Great South Bay. The lives of many thousands of Broadbill have provided mute testimony to its it effectiveness.


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Schuyler Watts swore that only a Pale Grey would hide.


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Lots of boats used a Battleship Grey.


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Others use Tiger Stripes - and I think there's lots to be said for breaking up the outline of the vessel.


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I have never seen Lou Tisch's visqueen (clear plastic) in action but I'll bet it looks great.


I am currently painting my Sneakbox with Pettit 3303 - Dull Dead Grass. It's a greyish-olive that looks a lot like Great South Bay's waters on a cloudy day. I'll bet it would be fine on a layout rig.

I presume our military is developing some sort of digital, nanotechnology chameleon coating that will perfectly match the surroundings - even as the light and winds change - and we duck hunters will embrace it one day.

My own conclusion is that color is a distant third to the really important things all gunners know:

1. Be where the birds want to be.

2. Do not move.

Finally, I do like to match the gunners' clothing to the paint (more or less) and cover most of the cockpit opening with a lap cover.

Have fun on your pursuit of the Holy Grail.

SJS

 
Reading Steves post reminded where we got the paint years ago. Had a local paint shop-contractor that had a barrel they emptied partial cans into. Comes out grey. Most of the clam, commercial fishing and buildings were painted with this oil paint as it was cheap. Think it was what was available at the time.
He also made decoy paint up for the locals as he was a gunner. Really nice flat paints.
 
Hey Rich if you were a broadbill gunner It was Benjamin Moore flat oil Black, White and Tudur brown. Life was much simpler then.

Phil
 
old timers here painted them white, even with no ice they were effective, I'd paint it white with light or med. gray irregular blotches to get the best of both worlds. that said, not moving is the best color
 
Wes~

Mike Noweil just sent me this photo (well, I edited it a bit....) of Lou Tisch's Visqueen camo:

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If I ever try it, I might make it with a "skirt" about 18 inches larger than the boat - and fasten the outer edges to "pool noodles" - so it would float the plastic at water level but still give way when changing gunners. I might use Dura Skrim ( http://www.sailrite.com/Dura-Skrim-2-Patterning-Material-74 ) for its reinforcements (like rip-stop nylon) AND cut a bunch of slices in it so it would not trap water.

All the best,

SJS

 
I have built 4 boats in the last 15 years. My current boat is a dark grey with a light gray blob camo pattern to it. I use latex house paint from Lowe's and add the grit to it. Oil base primer coat, then the Latex. I've never had any problems with adhesion/durability. For this box I bought a dark gray Columbia jacket and then just had them blend paint to match. I can't wait to get out there this season.......
 
In my short lived experience of only about 12 years of layout hunting the only deciding variable of the hunt I have truly nearly just stayed homes has been on windless (dead calm), sunny (bright) days. Other than that I have hunted both gray and slight break-up wave pattern color with great success from North to South in North America. To me it is not so much the color but breaking up the condition of the hunter in the layout. I have been in the boats on several occasions in just a polo shirt that was red because of hotter conditions or even a base layer that was black (talk about contrast). But the conditions were always in windy, cloudy days in which the wave pattern broke up the boat and caused the birds to always come in what I consider off the deck. Once they have the ability to fly higher than the condition of breaking up the hunter becomes problematic. By telling you to get down is another variable all together. I have personally hunted when you had to get down and hide your face to the point you felt like a sardine in the box and other times I could have been on one knee in the boat trying to get everything in order and birds land within 10 feet. If you notice some guys place the box in the spread others set the spread to the side. You may find out an robust method that shooting birds may end up placing yourself so far out of the spread that it was crazy to even think it would work. Color to me is a perception of "What do you feel you want". In all cases the main objective is to take as much of the birds concentration off the boat. In closing all I can tell you is to experiment. Each hunt will oppose different circumstances. Do not be afraid to adjust and by all means it is worth picking-up if the conditions are unsafe or all together leaving a rig out so you and your partners can get yourself out of harms way.
Regards,
Kristan
 
I totally agree with the post above our layouts are painted battleship grey, but potion seems to be a big deal, we experimented a lot and every day was a bit different. I am convinced its boat position more than color. but others have years more at this layout game than me,
 
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