Boat barn...

Tod

WOW! Dang, that only makes me want my shop even more. It looks doable and even the little fella got into the thick of things. Plenty of room for growth too. What's the next project on tap? The Tolman or more home improvements?
 
The pole buildings I've seen go up around here use pressure treated 6x6s. I'm thinking about using this technique to add a shed roof 1 car (boat) garage to the side of my current garage. I have a buddy who has an auger on his tractor to dig the holes & using sackrete I can avoid bringing in an excavator & the cost of foundation.
 
Harry, a friend who worked for Captain Canady about 10 years ago told me about that. He said it was pretty amazing how it all worked out.
 
Tod

WOW! Dang, that only makes me want my shop even more. It looks doable and even the little fella got into the thick of things. Plenty of room for growth too. What's the next project on tap? The Tolman or more home improvements?


Eric,

Lots of projects on tap since the house is so new. I'm still getting the shop in working order and need to do quite a few things to get it functional. Getting the stuff out of what was the two car garage garage and now is the shop will make it a lot nicer to work on the shop. I need to do things like close in one of the overhead doors and put someting else in the other that will seal up better. Do some wiring (including adding a sub panel) and replace a bunch of sheetrock. I built the snowgoose under conditions that could only be considered a mess (like had the tablesaw tarped outside at times to have full access to the garage stall, etc...). I won't do that again. I at least won't start the tolman until everything has a place.

Other than that, we have a couple major outdoor projects this spring and summer. We need to deer fence our garden and orchard and we need to add some drains in part of the garden and orchard area to dry the soil out a bit. Should be pretty nasty jobs. I'm not real excited.

I'll start the Tolman as soon as those things get managed, I would hope to get stuff ordered and started this summer, but maybe not?!?! That is going to be one long road to get that boat done. It will have to be to spread out the costs over a couple years anyway. I can't imagine dropping the cash for motor, trailer and electronics, having a hull waiting ready for them will only help :).
 
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NICE!!!!!!

Two things made me laugh...

1. Your child looks about to fall over haha

2. the deer hanging in the uncompleted building

Awesome! I'm jealous of your barn!


Having a kid makes you appreciate just how complicated it is to walk. They are in a constant state of falling; sometimes it just takes a bit longer between falls.

I loved sticking that deer in there, I shot it partly to try skinning one in there. I've always wanted a tall ceiling for skinning deer and always had done it in 7 or 8' ceilings, so it is a real treat to put the block and tackle high on the truss and hoist the deer up to proper working level. Good stuff.
 
I found the built up posts interesting. I've heard about them, but everyone uses full size pressure treated posts here, but lumber is cheaper than labor still in Oregon. I like how the post sanwiches over the truss, it's double trusses with blocks bolted under here.
I built a 24x36, 3 bay shop. I set all the posts, then would build and roof one bay. The readymix truck could back up into the next bay to pour slab in the first. Then I'd frame and roof bay two, and back the truck into bay 3, etc. This way I didn't have to pump the concrete, could still get the day's concrete on one truck, and could finish a 12x24 without hiring any help. It did take a little talking to get my wife to hold the other end of the rod, when rodding off the mud ;).
10 feet high works great for deer, but with the elk I had to hook the come along up near the ridge to get it off the floor. If you live in elk country go 12'.
I lived in Michigan a year when I was a young man, they call it stone there too. Here on the west coast it's called rock, I wonder where the line ends between stone and rock. My dad's from Oklahoma, and told me He got teased when He called a wetstone a wetrock, so maybe it's a south/north thing more than an east/west. Lots of people out west came from the south, or like me have ancesters who did.


Matt, Interesting stuff there. I can see how you would run out of height with an elk! I haven't done it yet, but I'm going to put a "D" ring for the block and tackle on a reinforced roof purlin to be able to get it way up there.

The stone we used is called "3/4" process" or "process" for short, it is a mix of 3/4" crushed with smaller crushed and stone dust. It compacts really well. It seem slike "process" is a regional name, my grandfather, who was a mason for 40 years in NY, never heard of the term.
 
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Todd
Nice series of pictures--thanks for sharing them. Was the ceiling insulated when they built it and can you still add a chimney at a later date? As others have posted they are never big enough. They poured my cement floor at 25 degrees below zero and covered it with straw and we thought we'd have a mess. It's probably the best cement I've ever had although getting the straw out was tough.
wis boz


Boz,

The roof steel is insulated for condensation, but if I wanted to put a stove in there I could punch it out through the side. For the time being, I'm not planning on insulation or heating, since I have a space in the house for a shop. Maybe someday I'll have to move out there, but so far so good :).

T
 
The pole buildings I've seen go up around here use pressure treated 6x6s. I'm thinking about using this technique to add a shed roof 1 car (boat) garage to the side of my current garage. I have a buddy who has an auger on his tractor to dig the holes & using sackrete I can avoid bringing in an excavator & the cost of foundation.


Gary,

My understanding is that Morton uses laminated 2x6s because the finished laminate is of better quality and are not apt to twist or warp like a wet 6x6 is. Laminates are stronger and more stable in general, so I'm buying it (hey I bought it already, so I better "buy" it). The PT laminated posts come from the factory together as to the non pressure treated tops. On the site, they install a bracket on the base to put into the concrete and set the posts that way. After the fact they trim all the posts to height and opt the tops on.

I will say that all the lumber they used is of very good quality and that building is true and square down to the 1/64" in terms of level and plumb from post to post. I'm very impressed with it, especially how fast they are a slamming them together.
 
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Nice pics Tod, Man, I would love to have one of those. Any reason you store your camper open? Looks like some nice ground for deer. Are you in a bow hunting only county? I used to do alot of bow hunting in Westchester county NY, from what I can see it just reminds me of one of my favorite spots. You mentioned building a Tolman, What type of boat is that and how big will she be? Just curious.............


Charlie, The camper is open in all the pics because we have been extracting our posessions from it little by little from that trip and now we are getting it cleaned up for sale. We have found leggos and all manner of toy in every orifice of the thing. We are going to put it up for sale as soon as the weather warms a bit.

We can bow or gun hunt here, our property has about a 10' diameter area that I could legally discharge a shotgun (has to be 500' from an occupied dwelling that you don't own or have permission), so I won't ever gun hunt here. I do bow hunt here and see lots of deer. I stuck a little doe on January 30th (which was the next to the last legal day here), just to shoot one on the property.

There are a bunch of different models of tolman skiffs, but the one I'm building will probably be a 24' model with an 8' beam. Tolman skiffs are "V" hulled plywood stitch and glue (kinda) skiffs with flared sides like a dory, they were designed in Homer Alaska and are pretty common fish boats up there. I planning on an open cockpit for and aft with a pretty large enclosed pilothouse and a hard top about as large as I can put on. This would be for fishing, but I'll build it so the pilothouse top comes off to use as a tender. Google tolman skiff and it will give yo uan idea real quick.
 
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Now that is a boat barn. At least it looks like you left plenty of room to expand the garden.

Tim


Tim, Expanding the garden is on the list for this year. We are going to open it up 6 feet wider so it will be 24x65 (I know a mere kitchen garden for you :). In that extra 6 feet we will probably harvest 2-3 bushels of stones. We harvested several bushels last year when we broke the 18x65 bed and there is a lot more there.
 
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The stone we used is called "3/4" process" or "process" for short, it is a mix of 3/4" crushed with smaller crushed and stone dust. It compacts really well.

Where I grew up in Maryland we called that crusher run. Packs nicely for driveways and the like.

Ted, we are all jealous. I started clearing and getting ready to do the same, but then the complexities of my land, permits and ambition collided. I have an undersized pad on a hill and yard full of downed timber, but no barn or shop yet.
 
exclude the wild beasts from their native habitat, wrest control of the forest from natures hands and beat that bitch into submission.....for God has given you dominion over the sky and the earth and all of the animals on it......

And here I thought you were an honest to got Bunny Hugger and Tree Lover......

You gonna have Tofu in your garden?

Steve
 
exclude the wild beasts from their native habitat, wrest control of the forest from natures hands and beat that bitch into submission.....for God has given you dominion over the sky and the earth and all of the animals on it......

And here I thought you were an honest to got Bunny Hugger and Tree Lover......

You gonna have Tofu in your garden?

Steve

Nice one Steve. Nothing more fun than poking somethin' with a sharp stick is there. Hehehehe
 
Tod, The Tollman sounds like quite an undertaking. I have to admit I am envious. From the looks of your last build I am sure she will a sight to behold.:) Good Luck and I look forward to watching that build.
 
and todays rain is supposed to turn to snow....

Plus Todd started it with his comments on the Obamites shutting down chicken season....

Besides I deleted a couple already and knew that if anyone could take it Todd could.....

Steve
 
Just a little case of cabin fever eh? I know the feeling. The people at work have started avoiding making eye contact with me for fear that I'll bite their stupid worthless heads off.

What?...Moi a surley bastard?.....Never!


I know Tod can handle it...in fact I'm sure he can handle a lot more...let er rip Steve I need something to cheer me up.
 
the "good things happen to good people" post on another thread.....

Hell I even offended me with that one.....although that wasn't the reason I deleted it.....heck I offend me frequently....

Aren't there some fish somewhere that need attention?

Steve
 
Gary,

My understanding is that Morton uses laminated 2x6s because the finished laminate is of better quality and are not apt to twist or warp like a wet 6x6 is. Laminates are stronger and more stable in general, so I'm buying it (hey I bought it already, so I better "buy" it). The PT laminated posts come from the factory together as to the non pressure treated tops. On the site, they install a bracket on the base to put into the concrete and set the posts that way. After the fact they trim all the posts to height and opt the tops on.

I will say that all the lumber they used is of very good quality and that building is true and square down to the 1/64" in terms of level and plumb from post to post. I'm very impressed with it, especially how fast they are a slamming them together.

Tod, do they fill the hole to the top with concrete to creat a solid pier and then set the bracket and post on top of it at grade or close to it? Seems like a solid way of doing it and quick too.
 
exclude the wild beasts from their native habitat, wrest control of the forest from natures hands and beat that bitch into submission.....for God has given you dominion over the sky and the earth and all of the animals on it......

And here I thought you were an honest to got Bunny Hugger and Tree Lover......

You gonna have Tofu in your garden?

Steve


If you are talking to me, then I take offense. ha ha h ah ah ah a, bitch. I know the worms that lived in that piece of lawn are now SOL.

I take solace in knowing that if you didn't live on the side/top of a mountain you would have a barn 2X that size, like Fred's.

T

P.S. Jen just started her tofu plants so they will be ready when the ground thaws.
 
Gary,

My understanding is that Morton uses laminated 2x6s because the finished laminate is of better quality and are not apt to twist or warp like a wet 6x6 is. Laminates are stronger and more stable in general, so I'm buying it (hey I bought it already, so I better "buy" it). The PT laminated posts come from the factory together as to the non pressure treated tops. On the site, they install a bracket on the base to put into the concrete and set the posts that way. After the fact they trim all the posts to height and opt the tops on.

I will say that all the lumber they used is of very good quality and that building is true and square down to the 1/64" in terms of level and plumb from post to post. I'm very impressed with it, especially how fast they are a slamming them together.

Tod, do they fill the hole to the top with concrete to creat a solid pier and then set the bracket and post on top of it at grade or close to it? Seems like a solid way of doing it and quick too.


No the concrete is all below frost line, they put a wafer (either 9 or 12 inches, I think) of concrete and attach to that.
 
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