Cedar Strip Sneak Boat Rehab Project--Help Please!

M Pietch

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A pal and I are going to rehab an 18' Pecor Fox sneak boat that we bought a few years ago. We've stored it covered and dry since we got it. The boat was glassed over the wood on the outside of the hug before we got it, but some of the glass is loose and peeling, so we want to do what it best to make it seaworthy for this coming Fall. The wood seems solid, and the interior is in its original, unfinished state.
So I have a few questions, which I am sure will lead to more questions as this develops. First, is there a good resource, such as a book or particular website, for doing this kind of work?
Second, should we remove all the glass outside and re-glass, or should we just take out the bad glass and fit new in?
Third, should we seal the inside by soaking thinned epoxy into the wood? Any pros/cons of epoxy sealing inside?
We want this boat to be as original as we can, but obviously new technology allows us to use some better glues, etc. We have the original oars, buggy top, oar mounts, etc. so the whole thing it pretty neat and pretty historical. Thanks for the help in advance, as wood boat restoration is entirely new to me.
 
I am not familiar with this boat, but, if it's a classic, I would hesitate to use epoxy inside. The best would be to use whatever was used by the original builder - maybe linseed oil thinned with turpentine, for example.One choice would be a product made for patio decks - something with a preservative and a moisture barrier (linseed, tung oil, etc).

On the outside, you can either patch or replace all of the 'glass. If it can be peeled off, it should be replaced. If well-bonded to the wood, you can just feather the edges and patch with new 'glass. You can see how I did it on my Scooter in Galleries 1 - 5 at:

http://stevenjaysanford.com/great-south-bay-scooter/

(Sorry, I cannot turn this live - probably because I have a new computer with Windows 8.1 and Google Chrome...)

Do you have any way of knowing when the boat was built and whether they might have used epoxy resin? In any event, I would recommend epoxy (not polyester) resin and cloth between 6 and 10 ounces (leaning toward the lighter).

I'm sure we would all love to see a photo or 2.

All the best,

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I am in the final stages of resoring/ building a 1940 16 ft perrine box. When i got the boat it was delaminating as well, best thing to do is to get that glass off and see what your dealing with. More times than not glass delaminates because of moisture. Get all the glass off and let that cedar breath. As far as the inside goes, you do not want to seal with epoxy, cedar boats need to breath. The boat has lasted this long with no epoxy so i wouldnt start using it now. A good coat of parkers or better yet lou's FME would be all you need .
 
M,
To the best of my knowledge, Pecor didn't glass his boats but I can check with an old friend of his who built many of the boats with him. Pecor's home/shop was actually 0.1 mile from my shop. Unfortunately I didn't find where he lived until his funeral several years ago....doh.
Lou
 
How about some pics? The Jan-Feb issue of Decoy Magazine, had a great article and pics on the Michigan history of sneak boats by Hy Dahlka.
 
Once we get the cover off, and get it out into the sunlight, I will put up some pics. The guy who is redoing the boat with is considerably older than I am and he knew Hy Dahlka. He has some great stories from times with him. Thanks for everybodys help so far.
 
Pecor did glass his sneak boats and the end of his boat building career.I do own four of them. If you have any more questions I would be glad to help.

Tom
 
I'd also suggest stripping all the glass, sanding to the original surface, and redoing the glass (if that's your choice).

I'm still wondering if I should have put canvas on my MMB sculler when I refinished it. That might be more historically accurate, but less functional.

For stripping the old glass, a heat gun is your friend. I took me a while to learn that, and it made the job a lot easier once I did.
 
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