Drawing building plans from an existing vessel

Steve Sanford

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Good morning, All~

Dax Hinton recently asked me how difficult it would be to draw plans to build an existing gunning boat - specifically the sweet "Midwest Gunning Skiffs" (my term) he found recently in a museum (?).
The short answer, I suppose, is very difficult. It is usually the province of trained and licensed marine architects. On the other hand, I have done it - and I imagine there are others here on the site that have done it as well. So, I will give an overview of the process and some random thoughts. I would encourage anyone to make the attempt.
I would also encourage anyone to read all of John Garner's books. This one has a lengthy chapter on Four Canoes - that would be a good starting point for anyone approaching this task. A beamier version of one of the 4 - to be decked over - may work for Dax.

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The example I will use is a Merrymeeting Bay Duckboat. John begins with some photos of the vessel - from various viewpoints. Note that none of the photos depict the boat in true cross section (aka section), profile (aka elevations) or from directly above (plan view).

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Some terms.....

Lines Plans These are the end result of lots of careful measuring and drawing. For many small craft, all the necessary information is presented on a single sheet.....

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Construction Plans - But construction details are usually depicted on a separate sheet.

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Taking the Lines - This is the painstaking process of measuring an existing vessel - paying strict attention to level, plumb and square - even when most of the shapes are curves. Howard Chapelle spent many years taking the lines off small craft of all kinds back in his day. (Another book I recommend to all!)

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Here's a jig I made to help me take the lines off the TED SANFORD - a Great South Bay Scooter designed and built by Benjamin Hallock about 100 years ago.

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See the whole process - beginning around Gallery 13 - in my post about the TED SANFORD:
https://stevenjaysanford.com/great-south-bay-scooter/

Scantlings - These are the thickness and width of the pieces of lumber that go into a boat. Most gunning boats are built with "light scantlings" - many work boats are built to "heavy scantlings".

Sketch Plans - These are often not-to-scale conceptual drawings - either as the first step for sophisticated vessels - or as "the plans" for simpler craft. This sketch captures everything I needed to build SWEET GHERKIN.

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So, if any designer - professional or dedicated amateur - wanted to draw plans based on a few oblique photographs, he or she would need to set some "hard" parameters: LOA, beam, depth, deadrise, crown - and then make lots of decisions about the actual shapes. The traditional process of hull design began with carving a half-model (Below probably not suitable for most gunning waters....), taking the lines from it, then scaling up to full-size.


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With the advent of plywood, small-scale cardboard of thin balsa models can suffice for simpler craft.

S- Dax et al - I hope this overview has been helpful!

SJS
 
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Lofting boat hulls has come a long way baby! I had a little experience with scanning a boat hull for a company here in Illinois with a contract company before I retired. Here is a link that shows the procedure with a good description of how a boat builder goes about creating 3d models to create a mold from the scan. It's pretty interesting. I have some 3d models and cad drawings on a backup drive somewhere. I'll have to dig them out if I can find the files.

 
Lofting boat hulls has come a long way baby! I had a little experience with scanning a boat hull for a company here in Illinois with a contract company before I retired. Here is a link that shows the procedure with a good description of how a boat builder goes about creating 3d models to create a mold from the scan. It's pretty interesting. I have some 3d models and cad drawings on a backup drive somewhere. I'll have to dig them out if I can find the files.

Good morning, Ed~

Well...just pop the files into a 3D printer and then I'm all set to go hunt virtual Mallards!

Very cool stuff - thanks! I have been thinking of finding someone to scan one of my sleeping duck "hood ornaments" (bow handles) - for eventually casting some from bronze. A real back burner project - but I figure the first step is the scanned file...

All the best,

SJS
 
Good morning, Ed~

Well...just pop the files into a 3D printer and then I'm all set to go hunt virtual Mallards!

Very cool stuff - thanks! I have been thinking of finding someone to scan one of my sleeping duck "hood ornaments" (bow handles) - for eventually casting some from bronze. A real back burner project - but I figure the first step is the scanned file...

All the best,

SJS
That would be cool! I always liked that handle design you have. My son has a 3d printer.... 🤔
 
Been away for a while and just catching up on various threads. I have a little book put out by the New Brunswick Museum called "Catch a Line". It's been years since I read it, but it does provide a field method for copying lines off boats. Book is ~40 pages. I could scan it if someone is interested, but I'm not sure about copyright. Here's the cover.
 

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