Duck/Goose Burgers?

Ed Askew

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Last year I bought an el cheapo meat grinder from Gander Mountain and made some sausage with ducks and geese plus pork and it came out really good but it took forever because the dang thing just doesn't stuff those casings very well. I thought about getting another one, but, I reckon maybe I should just make some patties and grill some burgers. Anyone do that? Recipes?

Ed.
 
Ed,
never done duck as sausage patties but it works very well with deer. We bag it up in Quart freezer bags 3\4 inch thick and its ready to cook out of the Freezer as a big square.

Ill trade you a question. Do you boil your mallards for your Gumbo? I have seen, brown the meat, to boil it for 2 hours, in different recipes. These are mallard breast and legs.

Bob
 
http://www.conyeagerspice.com/packaged-seasonings/?sort=featured&page=1

There are some good sausage seasoning kits here, I have used the hot Italian and sweet Italian with deer meat with good results, I added roughly 1/3 ground pork to the mix. I might go with a little more pork if I were using duck or goose meat but that's just me. You don't need to stuff them if you don't want to, make them into some patties and freeze.
We use the Bologna seasoning kit with duck and goose meat and everyone loves it. I can give you my recipe if you want. I have stuffed the casings by hand in the past, a bit of a PITA but can be done.
 
Nah, Chris I'm not fooling with stuffing anymore casing. Thanks for the link there.

Bob there's probably 1000 ways to make Gumbo. I think mine's pretty good and I never brown my meat. My brother browns his meat; he's lived in South Louisiana all his life and his gumbo is pretty bad, mainly because he always burns his Roux and he puts in too much water. The most important thing is the Roux. If you have your Roux you've got most of it done. You can buy Roux. My wife does that sometimes when she's in a hurry but it's cheating. She uses Tony Chachere's. It's pretty good really.

To make my Roux first off I chop up a half a onion, half a bell pepper, half a clove of garlic. I put in enough cooking oil to comfortably cover the bottom of a skillet and then some. I start to heat the oil and before it gets hot I throw in the veggies. Once they're going pretty good and the onions are getting a brown edge to them and the oil is hot I put in some flour. Enough to thicken it up some so it's kind of a molasses consistency. Now here's the thing: You must not burn that flour not even a little or you will ruin the whole damn mess. You must stir it continuously with a spatula until it just begins to turn a LITTLE golden. Then shut the heat off and take the skillet off the burner or you will burn the Roux. Getting it just right is the key. If you mess up and don't brown it enough it will look a little funny but it will still taste good. Oh yeah towards the end of this browning process I put a great deal of cayenne pepper into the Roux, or if I have some whole peppers from my garden I put half of them in the Roux. Be careful with that if you're from up North.

Now put the cut up meat, sausage (Andouille if you can get it, any other if you can't) and another chopped up onion and bell pepper, and the other half garlic and onion chopped up of what you had left over from above, chop up some celery, half an apple, and to really be gumbo you must have some okra (gumbo is a West African word that means okra), and put all that in a great big gumbo pot. Throw the Roux in on top of everything else. Add just enough water so you can barely stir it. Not much water really. Bring to a boil. Once it boils put the top on the pot and just barely simmer it for at least 1 1/2 hrs or longer up to 3 hrs, stirring occaisionally. At this stage if some of it sticks to the bottom and burns it only adds to the flavor it won't screw it up. Usually I go 1 1/2 to 2 hrs. You can throw an egg in there if you want. I hold back the second half of the bell pepper from the Roux and little more celery and add that to the boil the last 30 minutes. When it's about done, add enough cayenne so that when you taste it your mouth burns as you exhale. About 1 minute prior to flame shutoff I add Gumbo fillet. Others say that is sacrilege as it should be added at the table. You definitely should not add it any earlier to the boil as there are volatile aromatic compounds that will be lost if you add it too early that add much to the flavor. I put little or no salt in my gumbo and have it on the table. It's easy to over salt and ruin it. Serve over rice.

Things that mess up gumbo: burnt roux, too much water, too much salt, tomatos, forgetting the sausage.

Bon Appetite.

Ed.
 
Last year I bought an el cheapo meat grinder from Gander Mountain and made some sausage with ducks and geese plus pork and it came out really good but it took forever because the dang thing just doesn't stuff those casings very well. I thought about getting another one, but, I reckon maybe I should just make some patties and grill some burgers. Anyone do that? Recipes?

Ed.


Ed, I can understand your frustration, most grinders are lousy suffers. You need to buy a dedicated stuffer for filling casings if your grinder doesn't cut it. Stuffer is filled with ground meat and uses a plunger to fill casings.
 
Thanks Ed,
Tried it tonight. Was a work out getting the color in the Roux but I think I got it. Very good as far as this swamp yankee knows.
Bet it is better at lunch on monday.


Todd is right. A good stuffer makes it easy, if you ever decide to go back.

Bob
 
Oh I'm glad Bob. Usually gumbo is better the longer it sits in the fridge. Just remember before you scoop some up to microwave it that you mix the cold gumbo thoroughly because the roux ends up all on the top after it cools. Seems like gumbo keeps a long time. When I was in med school I lived on gumbo, white beans and rice, pork chops and homemade pizza. I always had a pot of gumbo in the fridge but if I left for the weekend my classmates would clean it out!

Yeah I appreciate the advice about a stuffer. Actually I just bought one we'll see what happens.

Ed.
 
I've ground up goose breast on more than one occasion and made patties out of them. Did them in a pan with a little olive oil, onion salt, garlic salt, and pepper. I enjoyed them!
 
Hey Ed,

if you look back under threads I started, I got quite a bit of info on sausages/meat etc, few links sent by Bob were incredible.

http://www.duckboats.net/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=161725;#161725
this was my thread on meat

http://www.wedlinydomowe.com/
this was one of Bob's links that has MORE about meat than I darn near thought possible, wow, what a wealth of info.

Anyhow, I ended up making some Italian sausage, and quite a bit of it we left "loose" and we fried it up in little patties for breakfast, added it to regular hamburger for "more flavorful burgers" for the grill etc.

Italian
10 pounds venison
5 pounds pork butts
2 cups of cold red wine
7T salt (kosher or sea, do not use Iodized salt)
7T fennel
6T black pepper
1T ground coriander
3t red pepper flakes
2t oregano
1t garlic powder
2t sugar
1 1/2 t caraway seeds

Anyway, love it a lot. I have done a lot of reading on stuffers, the vertical ones are definitively better than the horn type, hold more, more even pressure, easier to load/clean (supposidily) One is on my Christmas list as we speak. I used a big jerky gun to squeeze it out...worked but was a PITA.
 
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