Fall Creek Exploring

jode hillman

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With yesterday being the first day of Fall and a long month of work now completed. It was deemed a trip to the maze of south Jersey bayshore creeks was in order. I recruited a buddy to be deckhand and we set off from a friends Boat launch as the dawn was just breaking. The Roy boat was loaded with 20 crab traps, dip nets and fishing gear. We were hopping to bring some dinner home come hell or high water (Which we had)

Our first area was to head WAY upriver, to a place I have never been before. Reports of big fall crab in the area had me ready to explore. this spot was beautiful, wood ducks were buzzing all morning but the crab reports were not as good as expected. Three runs of the gear put 15 in the basket, but not any real size to them.


We packed up the gear and headed to the open marsh. I set a string of 20 traps far away from the normal high traffic areas. Big crab started to come aboard quickly and after a few runs our basket was nearing halfway full.





Noticing very clear water coming from upstream I navigated to a few creeks coming out of the woods. My buddy Billy manned the bow with his scap net, and I we slowly idled upstream he netted big rusty crabs from the clear water. After being gone from our gear from about and hour, the tide was dropping and I knew we needed to get back. As often happens in this area I ran across some skinny water trying to get from A to B. Nothing new for me......time to push!


As we cleared the mudflat I saw the unmistakable sight of fish boiling in the distance. At the edge of the flat in slightly deeper water was a ravenous school of stripers and White perch. We anchored up and began to nail the two at a time on pieces of shedder. We caught big humpback perch to 15" and stripers to 24" All the perch went into the holding tanks.




The ride back to pick up our gear was uneventful. Small flocks of green wings lifted off in from of the boat. A good sign of things to come. We made a few more detours to explore before loading back up in the early afternoon.My buddy and I split the catch and we both enjoyed Fresh crabs for dinner last night and perch Fillets for breakfast.




 
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dang Jode! I like to think we live in God's Country here but your excursions always remind me of the beauty and world of water critters that I don't get to see (salt-water species).

What is the "real name" for that fish you call white perch? I've lived in the south all my life and white perch is what Mississippi folks call a crappie/papermouth/slab/calico bass/etc.
 
Thanks Kyle. I think no matter where we live, getting in tune with your own enviroment and species is the key!

Well its real name is white perch, but I don't think its the same White perch we get in our freshwater lakes. (different that a Crappie, which we have also) Its a brackish and salt water species, but comes into freshwater to spawn and grow in summer.Maybe Tod or one of the other coastal guys know. All I can say is there darn fine eating!
 
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Well its real name is white perch, but I don't think its the same White perch we get in our freshwater lakes. (different that a Crappie, which we have also)

Ah! Well it makes sense that folks from MS aren't using the right name... (if anyone tells my wife I said then I'll deny it)
 
Now up here on the great lakes, Erie to be exact, the white perch are considered a trash fish. Used for catfish bait or given to the seagulls. I think they're the same fish, maybe? Look a lot alike. I hear of some people eating them, but most say "yuck!"

Here's a fine mess of what everyone around these parts go after - Lake run Yellow Perch!

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That was last wednesday. 210 fish-102 pounds!

I am extremely jealous however, of the trips you take once in a while. I cannot imagine a finer way to spend a day! Only throwing in a few oysters would top it!

Jon
 
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Thanks Dave !

They might be the same fish Jon, I don't know, I love yellow perch too, but we don't get alot of them around here.

I DO know NO ONE eats the white perch out of our Lakes, but when caught in Brackish and salt water (different diet) they are one of the best eating fish around. Check out my last pic Re: your oyster comment! ;>)
 
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The sea-run and freshwater white perch are the same fish, though there may be some genetic difference between them similar to that between sea-run and landlocked Atlantic salmon. We have both here, although the sea-run fish are scarce.

Inland white perch are prized eating here. Yellow perch are considered trash fish, and when caught while ice fishing many people leave them on the ice to attract eagles. I think technically this would be wanton waste and one could be cited for it, but I've never seen a ticket written for it.

Jode--got a picture of what you use for a crab trap? Is it like a lobster trap?
 
Jeff there are lots of kind of traps used to catch crab. A Chesapeake "commercial" pot is what lots of guys use and they will catch crabs by themselves, much like a lobster pot. generally they are checked every 24 hours. (not as much fun IMHO)

Many of the area's I prefer, these commercial pots are prohibited to lessen by catch of Diamondback Terrapin. So I utilize smaller traps which must be "run" or Checked every half hour or so. I use "topless" Stackable traps, as well as full enclosed box type. ( I build and or buy)

For bait I prefer to use chicken necks in Snoods as it makes baiting and cleaning up a breeze.

A stackable topless trap, they Nest inside each other to lessen space needed.




"Box" style



and finally You can use handline and a dip net to do it
"the old way" Which I love.






I also go scapping at night with a headlamp and net and look for softshells and true Mumbo's in the shallows, my preferred method when conditions are right! Thats when you find the real monsters.


 
Thanks, Jode. I can't admit this too loudly, but I think blue crab is about 50 times better than lobster, and I am jealous as hell.

I remember my grandfather giving me William Warner's book on crabbing, "Beautiful Swimmers", many years ago. I don't remember much about the book, but there was a chapter about an old time Virgina crabber who absolutely hated "the chicken neckers".

I have no idea if the book is still in print, but I bet you'd enjoy it if you haven't seen it.
 
Thanks, Jode. I can't admit this too loudly, but I think blue crab is about 50 times better than lobster, and I am jealous as hell.

I remember my grandfather giving me William Warner's book on crabbing, "Beautiful Swimmers", many years ago. I don't remember much about the book, but there was a chapter about an old time Virgina crabber who absolutely hated "the chicken neckers".

I have no idea if the book is still in print, but I bet you'd enjoy it if you haven't seen it.

Good book. Imagine if a blue crab had a chunk of meat on it a one quarter the size of a lobster tail - wow.
 
Yep, I have read the book, but don't own it. Its a classic. I hated Chicken neck too up until this year. A buddy from Md converted me. Works great and is WAY cheaper than Bunker or Clams.........Todd the back fin meat off one like this is the size of Golfballs!


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Yep, I have read the book, but don't own it. Its a classic. I hated Chicken neck too up until this year. A buddy from Md converted me. Works great and is WAY cheaper than Bunker or Clams.........Todd the back fin meat off one like this is the size of Golfballs!


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I'll have to take your word for it, I don't get big ones - ever.
 
Saw this post via my cell phone=small screen+bad eyes=didn't notice the delicious bi-valves.

The more I think about this thread, the more envious I have become. Again, I can't think of much more that would improve on such a great way to spend a day!


One of these days we're going to head up your way to try my hand at all of that!

Thanks for sharing!

Jon
 
Those are some nice perch. I have been fishing a couple of times out in the meadow and am getting some stripers to about 24"s, also got a few perch that I have been eating this week. I broke one striper off that was close to 30"s. I have eaten a lot of both (white and yellow), and they are both great. Also have been seeing some teal, some backs ducks, and a couple of mallards.
 
Thanks Greg , there were about 25 boats at the owls nest yesterday, apparently a perch blitz is on. We didn't catch the most, but did get some of the biggest. If you see that little mud point just over my friends right shoulder, the fish were keying off that. Our biggest striper was 25" but I had two break offs that felt considerably bigger.

Things should just get better from here on out, October should be a blast!
 
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