Goodbye to Etec 2 strokes

Grim news.....I have so far resisted buying a four-stroke outboard. Not to start a flame war, but no Mercury will ever grace my transom. I guess it's on to Yamaha or Honda.
 
SJ Fairbank said:
Grim news.....I have so far resisted buying a four-stroke outboard. Not to start a flame war, but no Mercury will ever grace my transom. I guess it's on to Yamaha or Honda.
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Nissan/Tohatsu offers some two-stroke direct injection motors in the 40/50 range (maybe more I'd have to check). My objection to four-stroke motors is the significant weight increase, although that increased weight has been coming down over the years. Probably won't ever be as light, but perhaps close enough. If someone could make a four-stroke turn a legit 25 hp and weigh under 125 pounds I'd say they have a duck hunter friendly motor. Of course as I type this I realize everyone now runs 16 foot plus rigs with 40+ hp motors so the days of a 25 hp being the standard motor are long gone, not to mention the mud motor which has taken over nearly all the duck hunting outboard market.

Eric
 
I've owned a evinrude for 55 years and continue today. Big loss to the marine industry. Hate to say they are the uglyist on the market today.
I started with a 3hp with very little compression, then to 5hp, which I have 3 still. Gr4eat for ducking, crabbing, fire lighting etc. Couldn't kill those machines. Sorry day, guess our northern neighbors should stick to snow mobiles???
 
Eric Patterson said:
SJ Fairbank said:
Grim news.....I have so far resisted buying a four-stroke outboard. Not to start a flame war, but no Mercury will ever grace my transom. I guess it's on to Yamaha or Honda.
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Nissan/Tohatsu offers some two-stroke direct injection motors in the 40/50 range (maybe more I'd have to check). My objection to four-stroke motors is the significant weight increase, although that increased weight has been coming down over the years. Probably won't ever be as light, but perhaps close enough. If someone could make a four-stroke turn a legit 25 hp and weigh under 125 pounds I'd say they have a duck hunter friendly motor. Of course as I type this I realize everyone now runs 16 foot plus rigs with 40+ hp motors so the days of a 25 hp being the standard motor are long gone, not to mention the mud motor which has taken over nearly all the duck hunting outboard market.

Eric
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Agreed, I would be more inclined to buy a four-stroke if they come up with a 25 HP- and-under design. That makes sense to me, where sacrificing the power of a two-stroke for the weight of a four banger doesn't. After a beer or two I might also admit to a tiny bit of politically incorrect satisfaction from leaving a bigger carbon footprint to remember me by.
 
Capt Rich Geminski said:
I've owned a evinrude for 55 years and continue today. Big loss to the marine industry. Hate to say they are the uglyist on the market today.
I started with a 3hp with very little compression, then to 5hp, which I have 3 still. Gr4eat for ducking, crabbing, fire lighting etc. Couldn't kill those machines. Sorry day, guess our northern neighbors should stick to snow mobiles???
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I think similar to you Rich, my family ran Johnson/Evinrude since the beginning of time. The first one I remember as a kid was an early 50's? 10 HP Johnson, the old red/white motif. Of the many outboards we/I have owned the only non-Johnson/Evinrude I recall is an 8 hp Yamaha two stroke which I still have and really like. The year the last Johnson two strokes were made (2005 I think) the local dealer told me he couldn't get any more, so I bought four 40's and three 25's. A "pickup truckload". The last of the 40's just went on a boat last year, after hanging brand new on a stand for 15 years. It was a sad day as I had hoped to have a lifetime supply. The 25's went away faster, I've bought two 25 etec's since. I don't have any more of the 3's or 4's but those little engines took us out and back in the marsh way too many times to count.

As for snowsleds, I only have Ski-Doo's which is of course BRP. They have an array of engine choices of which etec's are one line. I wonder if those are going away too? My current sleds have new but old style, standard two-stroke and modern four-stroke engines so no worries I guess.
 
All~


Having never bought a new outboard - and my most recent purchase being a 1967 (yes, I now feel it's necessary to specify the first 2 digits of the year.....) 3-horse Evinrude DuckTwin this past January - I am indeed sorry to see Johnson-Evinrude (OMC) fade into the mists of Time.


I am proud, though, that I correctly guessed that BRP must be "Bombardier Recreational Products". All of the several press releases presumed that the reader knew the acronym. Google to the rescue! Not exactly GM or even SCUBA - but I'm not Canadian, either....


Bombardier builds subway cars in Plattsburgh, NY - just north of our family camp.



Let's hope my ~ 1980 Evinrude15 lasts as long as I need it!


All the best,


SJS





 
I shared the bad news with the Mrs., she was not as concerned as I. [shocked] The memory of the 2005 two-stroke massacre is still fresh, I will not be stocking up this time. Holy angry wife Batman!!! [pirate] LOL! I'm getting too old to worry about it anyway.

Steve, just a bit of trivia...I believe BRP is a spinoff from Bombardier, c.2002. BRP took the fun toys with them. Pretty sure the Bombardier that manufactures trains and planes is completely separate.
 
My first 3hp was a freebie with not much compression. Brought it to the evinrude shop around the corner and asked how much it would cost to get it running. I made a deal to clean up the scrap pile of used motors by hp for labor. Best labor ever spent. I ran that motor for years till I saved enough to buy a used 5hp [speed].
As Steve said, I never owned a new motor in my life. Hell, I could even repair these simple motors, remember points and a condenser? Looking for a used 115 for a carolina skiff project...
 
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