Great South Bay Scooter Rehab - Part 2

Steve Sanford

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I am FINALLY getting back to working on our old Hallock Scooter. It seems taking about 5 weeks to build White-Wing ( at http://stevenjaysanford.com/white-wing-2-man-scooter/ ) and then enjoy a really fine gunning season up and down the eastern side of New York State prevents much serious time in the shop - other than drying gear and getting ready for the next shoot.

The work shown here actually was done before I took my hiatus. I am now finishing the bottom and will be priming and painting over the next couple of days.

As with the earlier post, I will give you a quick overview here - with a full description is on my site at: http://stevenjaysanford.com/great-south-bay-scooter/

Mostly what I did was to repair where some water had made its way through the 'glass at bow and stern, and also to pay attention to any crack or cavity or compromise in the 'glass, much of which was applied by my Dad in about 1954. As an interesting aside, just this summer I came across the 'glass filler he used way back then - when I was sorting though his (many) paint cans.

Here I just sawed off the end of the rotted oak bowpiece/breasthook:

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This jig will be used to make a new fairlead for the bow - out of bronze rod:

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I removed or set or ground away any fasteners that would be near the surface. New stem is just tacked on at this stage:

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Here is the new piece - of cypress this time - set in thickened epoxy. The vertical "plug" fills the cavity left by the big galvanized screw eye:

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Here it is later - with final fairing and shaping:

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Now to the aft end. It was interesting to see how this was built - about 90 years ago. The 3 outermost pieces are oak but just serve a fairing function. They fasten to the inner "harpin", as do the white cedar planks and the oak keelson. Note the "stopwater" on the midline between the keelson and the center fairing piece:

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I tried to find and grind every flaw in the 'glass skin:

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All raw wood was sealed with a coat of straight epoxy resin first. Then, all holes, cracks and hollows were filled with epoxy thickened with a mix of fairing fillers. I am not going for a "yacht finish" but want the skin to be sound and free of bad lumps or bumps:

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The "work" of the paper wasps was repaired with a dutchman:

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Here is the dutchman faired off - with the top edge of the coaming rounded to match the rest:

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Once I paint the bottom I will flip her and then start taking measurements for her lines and construction drawings. I hope to be reporting again without a prolonged "vacation" next time.

All the best,

SJS
 
I am 100% impressed by your ambitious undertaking. Thanks for taking all of the pictures of your progress and explaining what it is you are doing. the documentation is ever so valuable to those of us who will someday try to restore a craft to hunting condition. I can't tell you how many times I've used this site's search function and looked back through projects like this for inspiration. Keep up the good work and keep the camera handy!

Mike
 
Bob~

Yes, I heat the shop with wood - but I have a big stove - an original Defiant - to heat 800 sq ft of modern, well-insulated construction (as compared with our 1825 farmhouse....). So, I can get the temp wherever I want it. If I'm working actively - as I just was, sanding the bottom of the Scooter - I was glad to have it in the low '50s. However, I just discovered a few spots in the 'glass that needed repairs - so I just used some epoxy. I will get the room up to at least 70 so the epoxy can cure overnight - and while I'm watching Denver beat New England. When I have a big epoxy job - like 'glassing the entire hull, I usually leave it for the end of the day so I can crank the stove up and get the room over 80 for a thorough overnight cure.

I generally try to keep the shop above freezing all winter - to keeps paints and glues from freezing. The passive solar design keeps it about 25 degrees above ambient if there's any sun. If we are away for more than 2 days, though, I prevail upon a neighbor to put a fire in the stove. When Susan and I were on LI in early January - with temps near 0 - I asked my neighbor to the north to do so. When Susan returned 2 days before I did (someone had to do the saltwater gunning....), she came back to a house that was 55 and a shop that was 70.

All the best,

SJS
 
Steve, that is amazing how you can renovate such a relic. I'm enjoying this for being a land lubber.
Al
 
Mike~

Thanks for the kind words.

re finding my projects - It's a combination of word-of-mouth and keeping a weather eye out for suitable craft. This Scooter belonged to my Dad - has been in the family for ~ 60 years. The hull I used for White-Wing (the 2-man Scooter I built this fall) was an O'Day Daysailer hull I picked up for nothing because it was in such poor shape. Similarly, I found my Sneakbox next to a dumpster at a body shop years ago - got it for the asking. I search Craigslist-Boats for canoes and sailboats on a regular basis. My policy is to never pay more than $100 for a boat (but willing to spend much more on quality materials to get them the way I want them.) Also, of the 16 boats I have "built" thus far, 6 have been "from scratch" (my designs) and the others have been conversions, mostly from canoes or sailboat hulls.

With respect to Great South Bay Scooters, I learned about several in the fall while at a wake for a friend's Dad - lots of gunners (and former gunners) in the crowd - and lots of talk about gunning and duckboats, etc. I guess this is called "networking".....

All the best,

SJS
 
Steve,

You are giving me a little inspiration to resurrect my scooter. It was my first duck boat I bought about 30 yrs ago. I like what you are doing to yours. You can see the boat below needs a now point and transom. When I was 16 I just wanted to hunt out of her so I didn't get fancy, but after seeing what you done maybe it's time for me to give this 90 year old a boob job.

Keep up the good work.


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Jack~

Good to see another Scooter out there - I know there are still a bunch kicking around. I'm coming down the home-stretch on mine. The bottom is completely done - including finish paint. I have started to re-install most of the deck hardware and am just about to head out to the shop and complete repairs on the stool rack. There should be another "progress report" posted in a week or so.

I see you live in Brookhaven. I used to keep my sailboat at Tooker's (Stark's) Boatyard. Also, I'm guessing you know Mike Scheibel - a good friend of mine.

BTW: I am planning to be on LI around the March 1 LI Decoy Collectors Show. I'd be happy to look at your boat and share my thoughts if you'd like.

All the best,

SJS
 
Steve,
I don't know Mike, but I'm bad with names sometimes , so if I saw a face I might make the connection.

I usually go to the decoy show, so maybe I'll catch up with you. I'll send you a Message off this thread later today. Great to see you participating on this page.
 
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