Lead advisory forces N.D. food pantries to pull venison

Mike just made a good point. How do they know that it is all lead?

I personally think that a good part of the problem is that the processor knows that he is not preparing the
meat for the hunter. A good or bad job is not going to affect the repeat customer part of his trade.

When I butcher my own deer, any meat that is bloodshot or ragged gets trimmed off. I wonder if a
processor for a donate-a-deer program really cares? The time spend cleaning up meat affects the
bottom line.

I do think that I will discard a little bit more of the meat around the wound henceforward though.

Bob
 
This is why Parks "Alus shoots dem in de neck". When I butcher deer, I have always tossed a large area around the wound away. Eating black, bruised meat grosses me out. When doing this, bone fragments were my biggest concern as a rib getting hit really shatters. The picture of all the fragments that Steve posted looked to be the off side where the projectile came to rest. I'm not sure how I feel about all this as I don't want to see animals suffering from my actions.It was nice to be blissfully ignorant.
 
I've read the article and honestly, they are drawing some conclusions that I think are unsubstantiated. They say that large % of wild passerine birds have elevated lead levels in their blood and they draw a conclusion that it is due to ingestion of fragments from hunter killed animals! There is absolutely no way you can draw, nor substantiate that claim with their lack of data! There are many sources of lead in the natural environment, let alone the vast amount still lying on the bottoms of shallow marshes from a by-gone era.

The bottomline is that this subject needs a heck of a lot more data and research before I'll bite on either side...
 
Wow, is that a chia croc?
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Yep, it sure is. The kids Christmas present from me. When I came back from Nebraska earlier this month I woke up the next morning and took immediate notice that the Chia Crock was no longer with us...at least the little Mexican sage weed was gone. I was very saddened and my wife took this photo of me. She really gets a kick out of it and claims that I remind her of the guy in "No Country for Old Men" played by Javier Bardom(something like that). I haven't shaved since but I did get a haircut that was badly needed. "Flip for the Chia friendo"....if you haven't seen the movie you won't get that.

I think this lead thing is a big monster that'll probably never go away until lead is basically removed from society. My kids are walking around chewing on toys that are coated with lead paint and some do-gooder ahole in ND is having thousands of pounds of perfectly good meat thrown away for the dumpster chickens and the crows. I suppose they've thought through the process and are going to incinerate the meat? I mean, if a dumpster chicken eats a bunch of lead...gets lead poisoning and has a bad gyrodirectional beacon it could fly to Southern California and die in the middle of the desert and become a tasty snack for an Aplomado Falcon that's down on it's luck. That would be a shame. We'd have to outlaw dumps!
 
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OMG Jay!!! Did they run out of numbers? I didn't think you drank!...hehehe

Oh and how many think they throw away every chicken breast that falls off Tyson's or the hundred other poultry product lines in the world? My wife (actually her whole family) spent time on those lines as a youngster. She has stories that'll scare the B-jesus outa ya! An like Jay I alway bite my split shot!
 
Actually, those eyes are from stairing at snow geese coming out of the sun for 3 days and then driving back through Iowa in yet another ice storm where people in 4X4s go 4inches of the road and abandon their vehicle. I must've seen 300 vehicles stranded going out and coming back. White knuckle the entire time. Like the road between Kuwait City and Bagdad in the first gulf war.
 
Ain't it the truth. They spend an additional $10,500 to have four wheel on a vehicle and when they need it they don't know what to do with it! What do they say...something like 80% of 4x4's need service within the first 3 years for lack of use.
 
Well said Steve. You hit the nail(s) on the head. A fellow named Parcelcus a few hundred years ago said "everything is a cure and everything is a poison", of course talking about dose response. He was right excepting lead as there is nothing positive about having lead in your body. According to the last national survey (NHANES) in this country the average lead burden in adults was around 2.9 micrograms per deciliter. It was quite a bit higher than that until they took lead out of gasoline. You are also right about water still going through lead pipes. Right many years back I got hold of some old city water pipes that had been replaced and I melted them down to use as decoy weights. I also used to reload shotgun shells when I was shooting skeet competitively. I would still do either but would be much more careful than I used to be.

Don't get me wrong, I'd still shoot waterfowl with lead if it was legal (what a hypocrit I am) .
Thank goodness steel shot loads are so much better than they were when they were introduced. Also the newer Hevi-Shot and Kent Impact seem to be (to me anyway) just as efficaceous as lead. Unfortunately I can't afford to shoot that stuff everyday. Not a tirade about steel shot, I was just trying to make this duck related.

Best,
Harry
 
Goog points Harry.I too shot competition in Skeet and Trap.Reloading wasn't a problem handling shot except inhaling minute dust particles.When I started loading for pistol competition,I shot nothing but lead.I tried to wear surgical gloves and always washed up right after.Probably still raised my lead count.Hopefully new developments in non toxic shot and bullets will eliminate the problem for all game and shooting.Latest I heard about was E shot.In development to replace Bizmuth.
 
and cast iron pots and frying pans will increase your risk! I qoute the words I told the Townecraft cooking guy, "You will never get my cast iron pans till the day I die". Maybe sooner than I think since I shoot lead. I think I'll formulate titanium projectiles. They'll start around a hundred a box.
 
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