Let me rephrase but I still need help!!

Jared,

It is easy to make a small boat stable for hunting a dog out of it - poles driven down into the lake bottom through pipe clamps, pipes through the deck and hull, or handles. However, making one of these boats stable while underway and the dog decides to jump out of the boat to chase something is a hole other kettle of fish. Any sort of tippy boat should have pontoons on it if there is a dog in it w/o rock solid SIT/STAY.

My first suggestion is to start working out so that you can lift more than 80 pounds over your head when the wind is blowing. Your roof should be able to handle 200 pounds on the rack. Loading a boat up on there even with a mild 5 mph wind takes a lot of upper body strength. If you can't line the truck and boat up into the wind to load it you will become the axle for a windmill. This is from years of personal experience loading canoes onto trucks in off weather when alone or with kids too small to help.

If you want to build a boat in a kayak style there are a couple of options: sit on top or open cruiser.

This is a sit-on-top plywood kayak that might have enough stablity to survive a dog jumping off.
http://www.jemwatercraft.com/proddetail.php?prod=WF15-32

This is another one of their sit-on-tops that is smaller and might weigh less once you are done.
http://www.jemwatercraft.com/StudyPlans/SabaloStudyPlans.htm

The CLC Mill Creek 13 is a sit inside rec kayak that has been around for decades. Light, easy to build, stable. Also comes in longer tandom versions.
http://www.clcboats.com/shop/boats/kayaks/rec_kayaks/CLC-MILLCREEK-13.html

I think the Mill Creek would still need the poles to stablize it for the dog jumping out.

The KARA Hummer has a lot of potential to be a very light weight boat: 80 pounds is not out of the question. You would have to have read many kayak building books to get the knowledge of how to lighten the boat as you review the KARA plans and start changing them. The Hummer is built with construction 2x lumber and 1/4 plywood. A bomb proof construction method that comes out between 120 and 150 pounds. Changing to thinner materials will get it to under 100 pounds. Modifying the dimensions and how the pieces fit together might gain another 10 to 20 pounds off, but the bomb proofness of the original boat is gone.
 
Jared I think you are going to have to get a trailer for the boat you need. Without a dog you could get by with less stability, why would he care if you swim he could use some company to. Carstens, momarsh, and aquapod make some marsh boats. Lots of others out there to. You can find a small boat trailer for cheap. It also saves on the top of your car. I have a carstens pintail on a trailer. Plenty of room that you are looking for. I could always use more stability. John
 
I assumed 70lbs was enough to try to put on top of my vehicle. I can lift well over 80lbs but wasn't sure what would be too much to put on top of a car. Ive been searching craigslist for a trailer, but didnt think to use a small flat trailer to put a boat on. Everything I looked at was a true boat/trailer combination and was well out of my price range.

I didnt even think to use a small flat trailer. Any other suggestions of where to look for one at?
 
Jared Look at the boats on craigs list. You could buy a boat and trailer and resale the boat and keep the trailer. Sometimes there are just trailers listed also. John
 
Jared,

If you're still looking to build a boat, why not look at a Hybrid. I don't think they get too much respect at this site, but they seem to meet most of your needs. The new Hybrid website is http://www.hybridduckboat.com/files/

There is also a thread on the refuge site that's now 90+ pages long where you can look at hybrids that various people have built and modified. http://refugeforums.com/refuge/showthread.php?t=602498

You'll need to be a member to see the pictures, though.
 
The hybrid is not a boat usable with a dog. It barely fits a person and their gear. The question about using a dog was asked on that thread dozens of times and honestly answered "no" most of the time by Rich or other posters.

To have a dog in the Hybrid he would have to modify it a great deal and then it would be over his 80 pound weight limit. Once you step away from the original design criteria of the Hybrid (no dog, one man, fits into a tuck with the tail gate up) you should look at other designs like the Blue Bill.
 
Try to find a 14 foot 2 man kayak, and pull one seat. I have a 14 ft mainstream that has seen better days and a 14 ft predator that I use alot. both fill all your criteriea save the length.
Mainstream
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Peak load out on both these boats was about the same.
Me- 250 lbs + 15-20 more for waders coat and gear hangin on me
Tarrin-55 lbs Griffon
3 dozen decoys, 2 baby mojo's extension poles for the same.
Blind bag, gun and ammo
10lbs worth of blind material
Flotation and kayak paddle
Tarrin rides on the back deck and does just fine.
 
Jared I saw a sportspal canoe for sale on craigslist in central Michigan. They have extra foam floatation and are wider than most canoes. You could also put your dog on a stand in the marsh. I don't know anything about the canoes but I think I would investigate it if your funds are limited.John
 
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