Long Island, NY South Shore Brant hunt

I practically grew up on that waterfront in the backround. My grandfather passed away right after the war. My dad soon met an old charterboat captain, Walter Brooks. Walter ran a charter boat called the "Chinco" out of Seaford. I really think Walter was my replacement grandfather, and my dad's replacement father. We lived in levittown and spent every spare minute and hour down at that old Seaford water front. My dad worked construction weekdays and worked as mate on the "Chinco" weekends from the late forties into the mid fifties. I went along every weekend, I have fond memories of summer fluke fishing, spring Blackfishing off the T wreck, winter codfishing and fall Albacore fishing. We used to tow a big truck tire right behind the transom and drop red and white Japanese feathers right behind the tire. It seemed like as soon as the feather hit the wash created by the tire an albacore would hit it. I was just a little kid, but I can remember fish up to my knees in the cockpit. Everyone in the neighborhood ate albacore during that season.In later years my dad had a few bucks saved up, so he and a friend bought an old 24 ft Verity skiff fron a guy in bellmore. Seeing the causeway bridges in the backround of these picture reminds me of nights in that boat, spent tied up under these bridges, waiting for the tide and when the time was right, drifting big sand worms back behind the boat, while chumming with grass shrimp, My god what stripers we all caught! There were always a bunch of garveys running around in the evenings with lanterns mounted on the bows, for jacking whatever they saw.This was a great place to grow up and a great time. it formed the rest of my life which has been centered around commercial fishing, boat building and duck hunting. Thanks for the pictures, and the memories. Rich
 
Rich, your comment about jacking at night brings back memories also. A old gunning friend of mine introduced me to jacking. Spent many a night sticking fluke, flounder, eels and bass. Ended up decking over the bow of a 13 whaler and putting on six lights. My brother and I spent alot of nights out there. MEMORIES, GREAT...
 
Great pictures! Looks like you guys had a nice day (except for when Rich fell in).

Looking at your pictures makes me wish I had taken my camera out of its case a little more this weekend. Some days I'm busy working the dog, cooking, etc. and I just don't think of it.

That red bay shack looks familiar. Was there a large white boat washed up nearby?

How did the trailer repair go?
 
Great pictures! Looks like you guys had a nice day (except for when Rich fell in).

Looking at your pictures makes me wish I had taken my camera out of its case a little more this weekend. Some days I'm busy working the dog, cooking, etc. and I just don't think of it.

That red bay shack looks familiar. Was there a large white boat washed up nearby?

How did the trailer repair go?

John,

I'm also so busy some days I never take the camera out of the bag.
It was nice having Dave and Rufus around to help set up with such beautful decoys. We were chasing a few early in the morning just before sun up. The tide was rushing in and I was real nervous were may loose a few. We found everyone that didn't hold and reset them then kept a close eye on them all to make sure they didn't get carried away again.

Yes, there was a large boat washed up not far from the red shack. You were real close to us and Chris. We will have to try and meet up next time.

I'll get to the trailer repair sstory shortly.
 
Love the pics, especially seeing one of my deeks in there....

John


John,

I don't remember which one of the deeks was yours but Dave and Rufus had a bunch of real nice decoys. They all performed great!
 
How does one get an invite for next year's meeting? I'd drop down with my, by then finished, BBSB and swing on a few with y'all.
 
John, and Chris. Great pics that I completely enjoyed. Maybe Chris' help will get me to post some more pics. Here's to late Goose season. Kevin
 
Mike,

This meet up actaully started as a fund raiser for Jode when his barn burned down. I offered up a hunt and Rufus and Dave made a contribution to the fund but anyone was welcome.
We will have to do a bit more planning next year and make it a yearly event.
 
The weekend actually started Friday with Tom and Brian coming out for their first hunt on the salt.
Tom has been a visitor here on Duckboats.net for a while.
He has been reading about all our boats and trying to find the right one for him and his son to hunt out of. He is looking for a Black Brant if anyone knows of one for sale.
He has found this site to be a wealth of information so much so that his is reluctant to post. He said there are so many knowledgeble guys here that he is not sure what he could contribute. I told him to just stop by and say hello and ask any questions he may have.
So, here are a few from Fridays hunt.




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And of course Mocha fetching up his birds

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Now, that brings me to Saturday and the trouble with Dave's trailer.
On the way back to my house Rufus was following Dave and noticed the rear crossmember of his trailer flexing. After making it safely back to my place we took a closer look. It was obvious that he could not make it home in this condition. Dave and Rufus went to a local home supply store and picked up a piece of flat steel that we were going to sandwich on the top and bottom of the crossmember and thru bolt it together to sister it to the crossmenber. It was getting so we decided to make the repairs the following day.

When morning came Dave decided to leave his beloved BBSB behind and we took my boat, Rufus' Roy boat and my friend Dominick brought Lee Harker's old BBII. So it looks like even Lee made it to the get together in spirit.

So we headed out to to the salt again. I chose a spot where we were on the leeward side of a point that sees plenty of action. The forecast was not accurate and the winds shifted and before long we were getting some rough conditions on the water.
I will say that all the decoys rode the waves well. When they surfed up one side they just ran down the other. When some had waves break on them they quickly righted themselves. Good job carving those blocks guys. I know John Bourbon's work was present but I'm not sure if I captured one of his blocks surfing.

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The winds continued to swing then became west at about 30 kts and the deeks really started to surf

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We had a bunch of Buffleheads drop in for a visit and they came in so close together you could have taken more than your limit in one shot. They got a pass today because we were waiting for the Brant to show up.

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They stuck around for a while swimming around in the Brant decoys.

I know Dave was longing for his BBSB but he would have to settle on gunning from one of my boats. Here's Dave in my BBIII with Rufus behind him

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We stuck it out for a while but when the winds became to much we decided to call it a day and pick up the deeks.

It was getting hard to pick up the decoys myself so I headed back in , picked up Dave and he gave me a hand retreiving them.

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After we laoded up the boats we headed back to my house to see what we could do with Dave's trailer.

Upon closer inspection in daylight it became clear that this crossmember was not going to make it back to Va.

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So we took his boat off the trailer to see what could be done.

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After seeing how bad it was we took a ride to my shop to see if we could find him some parts to make the needed repairs. We could not find the right parts but I did have a trailer that we could make work for his boat. So we brought it back to my house and started to see what we could do.

After a little cutting , grinding and dissassembly we had the old trailer parted out and the new trailer ready to be loaded with his boat.

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After all the adjustments were made we winched it up and it was a great fit.

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Dave and Rufus came by Monday morning hooked up his BBSB and headed South for what turned out to be an uneventful ride home and made better time than the trip North.

Needless to say it was a long weekend but it was a pleasure hunting with everyone.
We will have to do this again next year.
 
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John... that's the wonderful thing about this website. Guys helping other guys enjoy the sport we all love. Count me in for next year, I may even have my old college roomate from upstate bring his TDB 14 Sea Class down.
 
Those are some great photos! Great looking boats too. That's not at all what us western guys picture when we think of New York- I know it's not all city but I didn't picture Long Island to be so idyllic looking. Thanks for stoking the imagination! I would really like to go on a hunt for Brant some day.
 
Those are some great photos! Great looking boats too. That's not at all what us western guys picture when we think of New York- I know it's not all city but I didn't picture Long Island to be so idyllic looking. Thanks for stoking the imagination! I would really like to go on a hunt for Brant some day.

Cody.... the funny thing is, this isn't all that far from NYC. In fact, we can watch the planes heading into JFK airport from the boat. Within 25 miles of Manhattan is miles and miles of salt marsh.
 
What a great thread. I really enjoy seeing how you hunt out east. I had no idea you could cover up so well along that coast line. For me it looks so strange to see cities in the background.
Al
 
Seeing the seal makes me ask: has anyone ever had a seal attack his duck dog? When those buggers started swarming one of my favorite places to hunt they would surface between Harry and the boat when he went for a duck. I swear they looked like thugs waiting in an alley to mug an innocent passerby. I held a bead on the back on one's head as Harry approached. They submerged slowly, diverging, and I wondered if they were after the duck, drawn by the blood. They're pure hell on salmon and steelhead runs. I stood up so I could shoot straight down if they came after him, got him in theboat and didn't send him for the rest of the day.

Recently a friend at my duck club told me his big chocolate, Rusty, was mauled by an otter when Rusty went into a beaver pond after a bird. Submarined him and ripped his guts almost out--couple thousand dollars in vet bills to save the dog. So otters at least will mug a working dog. An apologist for wolves told me several years ago that wolves have "the right" to kill hunting dogs brought into the woods where they hang out. I told him the definition of endangered is a predator that tries to hurt one of my duck dogs...

Anyone have any awful experiences with seals or otters?
 
This isn't duck hunting related Bill but I lived in New Zealand for a few years and got really into spearfishing and free diving for abalone and lobsters. I ended up having to trail my fish bag behind me on a 50 foot line because after you had speared a few fish seals would start to follow you around and try to steal your fish. The water clarity wasn't the best and nothing will give your heart a jump like having a dark, man-sized shape coming rocketing towards you out of the deep-scared the crap out of me on more than one occasion. They would usually leave you alone if you turned to face them though. I also surfed a lot and during the breeding season seals could get aggressive towards anything in the water-never happened to me but I had friends get bumped and charged on their surfboards by aggressive male seals.
 
Bill,

I'm around seals all season long and have never had a problem with them. Around here it seems that the young pups are the ones who will come the closet to us. When I say close I mean close. Right next to you within arms reach. They will splash around our decoys and it drives my dog nuts. She will bolt out of the boat but I don't let her get in the water unless she is sent to fetch a bird. Seals are one of the few things that she will bark and growl at and she will run to the shore line ready to protect our stool.

If you want to talk about Sea Lions, that's another story. I have been charged buy huge males that were very intimidating and on the other end of the spectrum some of my most memorable dives with Sea Lions were spent playing tug of war underwater with a bunch of pups, yearlings and juveniles. Great times spent underwater with them.
 
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