Mutilated geese found in Chicago Suburb

noweil Mike

noweil Mike

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The media has really run with this story. I hope nobody ever finds our dump site.


http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/...ted_NA123009.article
Four Canada geese mutilated in Naperville

December 30, 2009
By BILL BIRD wbird@scn1.com
A passerby or homeowner made a grisly discovery Tuesday evening in a residential area of Naperville's far northwest side: a cluster of four dead Canada geese with their chest cavities missing.
Naperville police late Tuesday night were completing their investigation into the apparent slaughter, which was discovered about 8:04 p.m. in the Brookdale neighborhood.
"The initial report is being taken by a police officer, with appropriate follow-up" by Naperville police or another agency yet to be determined, Cmdr. Ray Adkins said.
A neighborhood resident or passerby discovered the bodies of the geese on a parkway on the 1200 block of Langley Circle, a block or two west of Bainbridge Greens Park.
Adkins said the initial telephone call received by police indicated "the chest cavities of all four (geese) seem to be missing." A police and fire emergency radio report broadcast just after 8 p.m. declared the fatal injuries did "not seem to (have been) done by an animal."
Canada geese were among the first animals and plants to be protected under the Endangered Species Act of 1973, according to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service Web site.
The geese by 2001 were considered "recovered" and removed from the federal list of threatened and endangered species, the Web site indicated. It is still illegal to hunt or kill them, as they remain protected under the Migratory Bird Treaty Act, according to the Web site.
Flocks of geese now spend their winters in the Chicago area rather than migrating further south. Many consider them to be a nuisance because of their droppings and sometimes aggressive natures.
Adkins said he was not certain which state or federal agency might step in to investigate the deaths of the geese.
 
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I hope nobody ever finds our dump site.
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I hope your dump site is not in the middle of a residential neighborhood such as the one in the story. (and I am not saying that yours is)

I Googled the address given and it is in the middle of town in a residential area. Hard to say just what happened but if a hunter(s) just dumped these along the road then I hope he/they receive a hefty fine for his actions. Crap like this we don't need.
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Odd someone thinks that the standard old Canada Goose in Chicago was listed as T&E...maybe some sub-species (Obama Goose). So anyone shooting Aleutian Canadians??? Seems there is some goose from Hawaii that has some listing also.


Don't mean to take the thread a different direction but no wonder the do-gooders of all the animal world shut down the slaughter of horses in the US...out of touch with rational thoughts and the blood and guts of the world. Let the Europeans eat em if they want...

http://alaska.fws.gov/media/finalqanda.html
Aleutian Canada Goose
Questions and Answers about the Aleutian Canada goose
What action is the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service taking?
We are celebrating the recovery of the Aleutian Canada goose February 1, 2001, with a final rule published in the Federal Register on March 20, 2001 removing this species from the federal list of threatened and endangered wildlife and plants.
What actions contributed to the recovery of the Aleutian Canada goose?
Recovery of the Aleutian Canada goose has been a cooperative effort among federal and state agencies and private individuals. The goose was one of the first species to be protected under the Endangered Species Act (ESA) when the Act went into effect in 1973. Among the most successful recovery activities have been: 1) removing non-native foxes from potential nesting islands in Alaska; 2) acquiring, protecting and managing important wintering and migration habitat 3) moving wild, molting family groups of geese from Buldir Island, where most of the species remnant population was discovered, to other fox-free islands in the Aleutian Islands; and 4) protecting geese through Canada goose hunting closures in wintering and migration areas, particularly in California and Oregon.
 
Dave,

I had a stray dog dump over a garbage can once and drag off an antelope carcass after it was boned out .....glad no one found the - where it went to spot - and started a ruckus.

Matt
 
This reminds me of an incident that happened in Sioux Falls SD a few years ago.
Four 'dogs' were found skinned. The media, humane society and police were putting out serial killer warning signs for parents to look for. They were all disgusted that someone could skin a poor puppy, probably while it was alive too. The carcasses found on the edge of town dumped on what I believe was private property were sent to a biologist at SDSU. He promptly agreed with the animal control 'experts' that they were indeed the carcasses of four dogs similar to shelties.
They were taken to a pet crematory and thankfully that guy was a hunter/trapper. He looked at them and asked "Why do you want me to cremate fox carcasses?" The Game fish and parks finally took a look and confirmed that they were obviously foxes.

That might be one of the reasons I feel justified in questioning 'experts'.

Tim
 
Somebody need to email that bozo of a reported and set him straight on Canada geese being endangered!
 
Somebody need to email that bozo of a reporter and set him straight on Canada geese being endangered!
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I would have expected more from an author named Bill Bird. "...the chest cavities of all four (geese) seem to be missing." Sounds like the cavities are present.


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Yes, speculation, but I scratch my head more and more about what is being taught at home and in Hunter's Ed. Good luck going to any wildlife area in any state and not finding game carcasses or parts tossed on the ground in plain view in the parking area or nearby road ditch. It constantly amazes me how some people refuse to make even the smallest effort to either scatter the leftovers in an inconspicuous location for coyotes and other critters to gnaw on or to bag the remains and toss them in a dumpster. Crap indeed.
 
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So the biologist at SDSU get a little egg on his reputation for calling a "dog" carcass a shelltie type when they were foxes? I certainly hope so......Wonder how much that biologist warped the students minds with a bunch of whoowieeeee poopy stuff......?

When I was going to USU some of the Profs were a bit touched with some odd bias that caused a complete misunderstanding of what the real world is and was.. Maybe it was caused by reading to many peer reviewed professional journals written by people of like minds and views.

Matt
 
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Matt,
It's funny because SDSU is about as animal usage friendly as it gets. I think it was determined that the biologist didn't really look at it but took the word of a grad student or something like that. The head of the local humane society was so pushy that I think she forced a rush that people who knew better should not have gotten caught up in.

TIm
 
Tim,

I have a friend that is a prof at SDSU but she and her hubby live in Rapid City. She is a Range Ecologist. I helped her with her research for her doc. I also have relations that have degrees from SDSU.

Yeah I know that at one time SDSU was a school with a practical bent, but things do change. That is good to have a reputation for a bit of animal use friendly behavior and maybe even research.

Matt
 
Told him that if he had ANY honor as a journalist, he would retract and correct his article.
Told him canada geese were protected by hunting regs, state and fed but killing them according to the regs is fine.
Told him I didn't think much of the "hunters" for their lack of ethics but if he didn't retract, he was calling the kettle black.

Dutch
 
Go read the article, either it has changed or what was quoted as being a part of the article wasn't.

No mention of the Threatened and Endangered list at all. One of the posters in the comment section claims that the story has changed at least 3 times.

Interesting.

Mark W
 
Wow, it's an almost entirely different article now. So much for the days of a followup, correction or retraction. Interesting that he stuck with "Mutilated" in the headline when his article now says otherwise.
 
Wow that story has changed a lot since yesterday. Now it was most likely a poacher....or maybe it was just some idiot who dumps the carcasses of legal hunted geese in the wrong place. Why not those same aliens who cut out parts from cows out west. It could even be poor people who aren't getting their Obama money and need something to eat.
If that guy is a reporter he is a horrible one, wild speculation on such a simple thing is useless.

Tim
 
Tim isnt that what reporters do these days wild speculation? Reporters dont report news anymore they imbelish it to make it more interesting for the masses. I also love the word "alleged" I know your innocent until proven guilty. But when I here "The alleged bomber" when he was the only one with an explosive device on is leg just bugs me.
 
My, Oh MY!!!......the finest journalism is the statement falsehoods and maybe a retraction.....lies.....lack of discretion.....proclaiming guilt....and the sensational inclusion of gilded cow pies (or was that bull pies?).....I just wonder who believes the bunk (Obamaites?).

Some where there is a famous line.....The truth shall set you free (John 8:32).......no wonder we wander around with the chain of excessive government hanging around out necks....we are fed pure_________.....you fill in the blank.
 
They should of used the word slaughtered in place of mutilated, and ordered a big mac to go. Maybe it is a cult group sacrificing geese. John
 
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