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Eddie Kershaw

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The things vets can do for animals these days are majic, I have seen dogs that have had both back legs amputated and they make a cradle with wheels on it so the dog can get around, I have also wonderd if anybody knows of a dog that as had a earing aid, I have got a little staff x jack russel and she is my house dog, she is 13 1/2 years old and as death as a barn door, she responds well to hand signals fairly well, the only one she does,nt respond to is the 2 fingers she was,nt taught that thank heavens.
Eddie.
 
There are numerous "hearing aid" companies for dogs here in the USA . . . my personal favorite is Tri-Tronics, but others like Dogtra. Sportdog and Innotek are common as well.

But I understand "hearing aids" are frowned upon in the UK!

NR
 
Nick,

My dog has become deaf as well. He will respond to hand signals but only if I can visually get his attention first. He is completely deaf and wont even know you are there or have dumped food in his bowl if he has his back to you and only a foot away. I wasn't aware that hearing aids were available. How long has your dog been using the one you have? Can you provide a link or model number so I can do a search? Thanks
 
Dave -

I think he is referring to e-collars for "deaf" dogs. My wife has threatened to use my Tri-tronics on me when I'm being "deaf"!!!!!!!!!!! Trip
 
Nick I have never known of a dog to have a earing aid before and when I post this thred it was something that just came to my mind, please tell me more about it as I find the subject interesting.
take care
Eddie.
 
Eddie, when Can, my last lab, went deaf, my partners and i would all holler his name simultaneously, to get his attention, then he would work with hand signals---other than that, when he was out in the marsh, we just let him do things his way--Bill was brought in when Can lost his hearing!! With Bill, it is not hearing loss, but lack of listening--the e collar has taken care of that, but is only needed when we hunt----Man, between you and your dogs, i am not sure who is worse off, fella! hehehhehhhe
Hey, perhaps her ears are just in need of a good cleaning---sometimes, that is the simplest solution to what is perceived as a bigger problem.
 
I think he is referring to e-collars for "deaf" dogs.
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I fail to understand how shocking a 13year old deaf dog (the dog referred to in the original posting) would help him hear. I would think it would confuse the dog and make the situation even worse. I imagine the world for a dog which has become deaf, is confusing enough already. I know my dog can no longer hear my truck backing up, my footsteps approching or the ducks quacking. He jumps with fright if you approach and touch him from behind. No, I can't see myself using a e-collar on my deaf dog and I doubt Eddie would either.
 
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George I think Keo is worse off than me because yesterday I got 2 new earing aids and they are digital of the NHS I have paid my contrebutions all my life so its about time I got something back
 
Dave I quite agree I would,nt even think of using a e coller, that would be crule, one beep of that would blow her head off, if anybody thinks I having a joke about the earing aids, Im sorry to say Im not joking, I have lost 1/3 of my earing in both ears and this was due to bombs going off when I served in n/Ireland while I was in the Army so I can see how Keo feels poor thing.
take care
Eddie
 
most of the newer e collars have PAGER functions that are a TONE, often that dogs can hear (even the deaf ones if they are not TOTALLY deaf) that would help to serve with proper training to get the dog to "LOOK BACK" at you and allow you to use hand signals.

otherwise I have not heard of conventional hearing aids for dogs, mine would have them out in a minute.
 
Eric we dont tend to use e collers in the U.K our dogs a bread more for temperment ad working ability so when you go to look for a pup you check out the temperment of the parents, I agree conventional earing aids would,nt last 2 minuets in a dog unless it had surgery and had them planted in, it would be nice to see what reserch there as been done in this field.
take care
Eddie.
 
Eric,

I understand the pager function and it's use. I'm not totally sure if my dog would be able to respond to this tone. I'll bet a vibrate mode similar to a cell phone, would do the trick.
 
Sorry guys, I was just making a joke about how some dogs become collar wise and if they aren't wearing a collar they seem to be deaf. I'm not much on using "smileys" or "emoticons" so maybe I'll hafta work on the delivery a little.

Ok, here's me being serious: I've never had a dog go deaf, so I hadn't given the idea any thought, but after reading these posts, it occurs to me that some of the e-collars have a "warning" before any electricity is deployed. This is a key component especially for the underground fences. It is concievable that a collar could be designed that would vibrate like a cell phone and you could thus get the dog's attention. There's a million dollar idea . . . please reward me appropriately!

NR
 
Now that sounds like a good idear Dave, what we need now is some big company like vodaphone or T mobile to jump on the van wagon and produce something in this field.
take care
Eddie.
 
I believe the Dogtra collar have a vibration mode.

There is nothing about electricity that teaches a dog anything. It is purely a training tool, just like any leash and collar.

Tom
 
Nick I think the idear of the vibrater is a good Idear, but the next thing someone will be telling me is to go to the sex shop a buy a vibrater and attach it to her coller, yes Buddy that is out of the question.
take care
Eddie.
 
Tom I agree I dont think training collers are going to be the awnser to this problem but what I do think is vets need to put on their thinking caps and try and come up with a solution for the sake of our deaf dogs, if they can solve the problem for human beings why car,nt they solve it for deaf dogs.
take care
Eddie.
 
dave, Eddie and have been pm ing about a lot of stuff, including e-which i have had to resort to reintroducing to by 115 pound moose of a lab--only a nick, and he regained his hearing--whoops, listening skills---nope, i do not advocate that procedure for deaf dogs-our solution was a three man gang yell when we needes to get can's attention--His twelfth year was his last season--only worked until bill was ready--one reccommendation for a hearing impaired dog is a fenced back yard, so they can spend their resting years comfortably meandering around!
BTW Can NEVER was introduced to a collar, and from age 12 until 16 he was content to meander around the yard, go for swims with bill, and rule the house! that's what you do with the senior dog! Eddie, have vet check to see if just irrigation will help!
 
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George Keo is due back at the vets in a months time, I will have him check out her ears and see if he can come up with a solution.
take care Buddy
Eddie
 
As someone who has trained dogs professionally and also has 2 older dogs( 13yrs 4months) and (12 years 10 months) I have some experience with this problem. My male is pretty stone deaf and my female can still hear but has a hard time pin pointing sound direction any longer.

First, I doubt you could get a hearing aid of any kind that would work. First time dog took a dunk in the water there would go the aid. I would think you would need something like a (sp?) a cochlear implant, and who could afford that assuming they are waterproof ?

Second, there are collars available that have a "vibration" feature as mentioned. You would have to pretty much pick one command for this though. I would think "sit" would be best. If you taught the dog to sit and look at you ( as is done when teaching blind work) You could then give the dog hand signals to "come in", "over","come around" , etc. I doubt the "tone" feature would be of much use. If the dog is deaf I doubt he would hear the tone.

I also now run my dogs with a beeper on their collar for field work. In the tall grass and brush it is paramount to keep track of them so I can head off any kind of problems and know exactly where they are.

Third, while meant in jest the use of an e-collar is exactly one way to solve this problem. Several guys on here seem to still have the old fashioned idea of e-collars. With today's collars you have a wide range of levels to use, both in duration and intensity. I use the collar on Tanner. If he is getting too far out in the field or can't hear the whistle ( yes he can still hear a high pitched whistle where he can't hear a voice) I will give him a very low level "nick".Since he has been collar conditioned, he knows to stop and look at me. I then give him the appropriate hand signal.

This level is less than a static shock. I've tried it on myself. I'm sure dogs would feel it even less.It would really be no different than giving a dog a tug on a lead to get their attention, only in this case the lead is electronic. If I give Tanner a low level nick the only way you would know is that he turns to look for me and if you were real close you might see him blink.So, given the choice between being able to communicate with my dog and keeping him safe vs letting him loose in an enviroment where he his hearing loss could get him in trouble, I'll take the collar. Its just another tool and is only as good as the person running it.

Dave B
 
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