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Dave,

I understand what you are saying and I agree to a point. The issue you are addressing is using hearing aids (for the dog) and e-collars in the field and on the water. This is not was was asked about in Eddies original post to which the e-collar suggestion was made in response to. To quote Eddies post; "[font=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica]and she is my house dog, she is 13 1/2 years old and as death as a barn door". I took this to mean that he did not take his house dog out to the field in hunting circumstances.

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[font=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica]So, given the choice between being able to communicate with my dog and keeping him safe vs letting him loose in an enviroment where he his hearing loss could get him in trouble, I'll take the collar.[/font]
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[font=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica]I wholeheartedly agree with [/font][font=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica]not letting him loose in an environment where he his hearing loss could get him in trouble. This may be why Eddies is a house dog or he may have always been a house dog.

I have a collar for my dog and do use it in the field but I have never seen the need to use it in the house. Now that I can no longer verbally get my dogs attention while in the house, I just go over to him and make physical contact much the same way I would with a non-hearing human member of my house. So, I'm sorry, you still haven't convinced me of the need for a collar for a house dog.
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Dave you are quite correct Keo is a house dog , and has always been a house dog, and never in the field, for shooting, and she is still prity good at what she does, and that is to protect the house and its contents.
take care
Eddie
 
Eddie, Dave my last lab went stone deaf in his later years & I found a thump on the floor got his attention & I could use hand signals from there on. Amazing to me was outside a hard stomp on the ground caught his attention as far as 30' or so! He learned to adapt to what happened & seemed to be happy to the non hearing communications.
 
Dave,

You are correct that I missed the part about the dog being only a house dog. I was mainly replying to these 2 statements about e-collars :

[font=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica]"I fail to understand how shocking a 13year old deaf dog (the dog referred to in the original posting) would help him hear. I would think it would confuse the dog and make the situation even worse. [/font]"

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"[font=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica]I would,nt even think of using a e coller, that would be crule, one beep of that would blow her head off"

For a house dog I also do like Dennis does and stomp on the floor, slap the wall, or a counter to get Tanner's attention if he is across a room or in another part of the house. When I come home from work in the morning, I go to the stairway leading up stairs and slap the wall of the staircase. Tanner sleeps in the upstairs hall. He feels the vibration and comes down to be let out.

Dave B
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Dennis,

I'm sure a thump on the floor would do the trick also. I have a small wood deck at the rear door of my house. Often my dog will be laying on this deck. When I step out and down onto the deck in a normal fashion it usually goes un-noticed however, if I make a point to step down hard onto the deck with that first step, my dog will respond.

None the less, my plan is to continue to enjoy my dog and hunt him as often as possible, for this is still one of his pleasures. I have and will continue to choose my hunting spots so as to limit his exposure to risk. There are several locations that we have hunted in the past that are now inappropriate for us. These locations are being "rested" for future use when Jack (my dog) is eventually replaced.

For my part, I thank everyone for their responses and concern.
 
Dennis, Dave I will try these bangs on the floor and walls and see if Keo will respond to them so I can get her attension, thanks Buddys
take care
Eddie.
 
I would like to thank everybody that has partisipated on this thread, I have enjoyed it and learn,nt a lot, Thanks Guys
take care
Eddie
 
Eddie,

No problem. Teach this "trick" just as you would any other . Start out by stomping on the floor when the dog is in the same room. When it looks at you give it your hand signal for "here". Mine is a slight bend at the waist with both my hands open and palms toward the dog. If you are consistent with this the dog should learn that when it hears the vibration through the floor that it should come look for you. I have a small house so its easy for the dog to find me. If you have a larger place, remember that the while it can feel the vibration it likely can't tell where it came from. Good luck to all with their dogs. I'm heading out today with mine to a pheasant farm to let them do what they love so much.

Later,

dave b
 
Sorry Dave, I have been away for the weekend. It was said in jest as I could tell that Nick was joking in his suggestion to use an e-collar for a "deaf" dog. I would never use a collar for a deaf or hard of hearing dog. the thump on the floor is the method I have used in the past. Also, I try to set up my hunting situations where I am not shooting over my dogs head or giving him a muzzle blast. Sorry for the confusion.
 
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