NDR but has to be shown....

Ed L.

Ed L.

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Best trail cam pic ever.....

Enjoy,

Ed L.

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make believe, lets see who will fall for this, picture they re-processed it so that you can't see the trees through the deers body....

Some amazing things in this "trail cam" photo....the arrow is still in the deer, no blur and we get to see the blood splatter on not only the entry wound but also the exit wound....amazing that the little POS camera,that typically can't catch a deer full frame unless its standing dead still, could freeze the deer so perfectly, (actually not that big a deal if you figure the photo of the deer was taken as it lay dead on the ground and then was photoshopped into the leap), but for the camera to have also perfectly arrested an arrow traveling at over 800 FPS AND perfect blood splatter on both wounds.....

Nice corn pile BTW...so I'll assume this is a Ted Nugent photo..

I believe it though....really I do....that and I also beleive that Obama will lower my taxes, McCain will be different than Bush--remember he's a "maverick"--just ask him he'll repeat it multiple times, that HOGzilla really was a giant pig that weighed over a ton, and HELL I even believe in Santa Claus....

Steve

 
800 fps!!! Man, I haven't read any bowhunting mags for a while....when did they get arrows going that fast?
 
Steve,

You may be right but who would take the time to airbrush the little ass shot going out of view on the left side of the photo. I have seen a couple of trail cams with pretty fast shutter speeds.

Ed L.
 
o.k. what the hell do I know about arrow speed?

Doesn't matter if it was 400FPS there isn't a trail camera out there that could stop that arrow so perfectly, with no blur, and I'll add that if it could have then that deer would have had to have been shot at the top of the leap and not while it was standing on the ground....making it not only the World's MOST INCREDIBLE trail cam photo but the MOST INCREDIBLE "on the wing" Deer shot ever as well--(I'm even more convinced it was the Nuge now as this must truly be a representation of that oft cited "mystical flight of the arrow" he talks about)....

400FPS - 800FPS...it ain't the arrow speed that makes the picture BULLSHIT....

Steve
 
Oh...I agree that it is a fake...never argued that point..just wanted to know where I could buy a bow that could shoot that arrow at 800 fps.
 
I am not saying it is not possible, but two cents on arrow speeds...For one arrow speeds in the industry do not exceed 350 fps. Your average industry standard for compound bows have IBO speeds are around 300 FPS...I am assumming when you guys say 800 you are talking about shutter speed and not FPS...
 
OBVIOUSLY how far off I was.....so the mistake on speed was mine.....

Shutter speeds would have to be "off the chart" to stop an arrow like that though.....and that I do know for certain....

Steve
 
They once made Steve the President of the Skeptics Club, but he doubted it. : )


Weird picture for sure. I think it was a camera man buddy taking the picture and the arrow wasn't moving at that point. I like the corn pile too, nice touch.

Would there be blood on the entry side like that upon impact?

Mark him "porkchops" and put him in the freezer with the rest!

Mike
 
then the arrows forward progress hasn't been arrested yet....certainly not at the close range of the stalwart bowman who has just shot the Deer over the corn pile.....

I do like the Skeptic's thing...I'll remember that one for the future...

Steve
 
What says that the camera was clicked as the arrow hit? This deer could have been hit several jumps before the camera. Steve, contrary to what you see on TV, arrows don't always pass through an animal when it's hit. In this shot the arrow looks to have passed through the heart and stopped in the opposite shoulder - not only plausible, but has happened just like that to me. Also, blood on the entry side is certainly plausible with a heart shot, even more so if it was several jumps after the shot.

More on arrow speed. My bow, a compound, shoots a 465 grain arrow at right around 245 fps. A long bow or recurve can even be in the <200 fps range.

As far as shutter speed, I don't have a clue what the trail cams offer but this shot was taken in the daylight so it, again is plausible IMO.

Am I saying I believe this was a real, unmodified, picture - no, but it's pausible.
 
I have seen three arrow hits on various TV hunts where blood spurted out the entrance hole upon impact. Two of those shows were for black bear hunts on a show I don't remember the name of. Then there was Archer's Choice, or The Choice, and Vicky hit a bull moose in the Yukon at about 15 yards. Huge amount of blood on that big guy.

However, shutter speed. I guess those cuddyback trail cams are pretty good. They are supposed to have the fastest trigger speed and it appears that they have really fast shutter speed too.

Steve are you down at your truck show in Cali? The meeting in Seattle was canceled so no beer sharing. Maybe in November we are told, but they typically have a travel moratorium in November due to all the holiday conflicts.
 
the absence of any blood on the animal indicates that the blood shown is THE FIRST blood which would indicate that we aren't into "multiple jumps after the arrow strike".....

You say "arrow stopped in the shoulder"...if that were the case then there wouldn't be an exit wound on the offside and there wouldn't be blood there.

In fact looking at the picture again there is no way that blood could be pouring out from under the off leg as is shown....the exit wound would be on the offside of the deer and wouldn't be splashing under the leg as shown....

If you had seen the "earlier" permutations of this photo you would see the progression of the photoshopping...the original was so poor you could actually see the trees through the deers body....someone is obviously commenting to the photoshopper on this one and he's correcting the items noted to make the picture more believable.

Ray...I'm back home after the show....we sold the unit at the show that we were going to drive home to show off to customers on the way back and got home early as a result....

Keep me posted if you do make it down this way in November....

Steve....
 
If that pic was taken during the day, the bucks eye wouldn't be gray..it would look black. If it was taken with a flash big enough to lighten up that whole area, it was probably too damn early or late to be shooting at a deer.I would also expect to see the arrow feathers blurred even if the arrow was "at rest" in the deer as it would be moving more than the tail, which seems to be a little blurry.
 
I'm not saying it's real but I will say it's interesting. I don't know what my arrow weight is but I'm shooting 30" carbon arrows tipped with 125gr broadheads out of a Browning Rage set at 55lbs. Speed though a chronograph is averaging 328 ft per sec. The 13 point buck I shout in "04" was at 25 yds. It was a heart shot and when the arrow hit the opposite should the arrow came back out the entry hole. Blood everywhere.

Ed L.
 
it is certainly a lot easier to pick it apart to make your story fit that fact.

OK so maybe the arrow didn't stop "in the shoulder" but stopped when it hit the off leg after traveling through the animal. The presence of blood doesn't, in itself, preclude this being possible. Animals bleed quite readily at times.
 
right in the header of that post I said..."at least in this permutation of the photoshopped picture....." etc. etc. etc....which indicated that I already believed it was false when it appeared here......

I'm not disagreeing that animals "bleed easily at times" just that the location of the blood is indicative of this being the instant the arrow stirkes which makes the postion of the animal vbery suspicious since after the initial spurt the deers side would have been covered with blood with it flowing in that quantity.....not to mention the very suspicious armpit bleeding which isn't explained by any of the "arrow passed through, arrow lodged in shoulder, arrow pierced skin on the other side but staid in the body" explanations.....

No "proof" anywhere that it isn't real.....I just happen to believe that its as big a lie as the two Presidential Candidates promises to "change" the future for the better....

Steve
 
I was about ready to make a comeback post to your political comment.........then remembered my self imposed moritorium on anything political, lest I come down with a case of stomach flu.
 
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