New York - New Lifejacket Regulation

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Shayne Mitchell

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There's a new regulation in NY which will affect late season boaters starting this November: "No owner or operator of a pleasure vessel less than twenty-one feet, including rowboats, canoes, and kayaks shall permit its operation, between November first and May first, unless each person on board such vessel is wearing a securely fastened United States Coast Guard approved wearable personal flotation device of an appropriate size when such vessel is underway." More info at http://www.nysparks.state.ny.us/boating/navigation.asp .

I googled a nautical definition of underway and came up with this: A vessel is said to be underway when she is not anchored, moored, aground, or beached.

I just ordered an inflatable suspenders-type life jacket. Hopefully that works better over my late season hunting parka than the other life jackets I've got (which usually sit in the bottom of boat). Gotta keep reminding myself not to run my TDB while sitting on the coaming too.
 
I really hate these "protecting stupid people from themselves" regulations. That said, I am positive that you will find that wearing an inflatable is so comfortable that it'll be easy to remember to put it on and easy to forget to take it off.
 
But Pete that is where are government is going.

As you may know I work for a bank, we were recently updated about changes to mortgage laws. The short of it is, if you want to use your house as collateral for any type of loan, better plan at least two weeks in advance due to the new regs. I make mainly business/commercial loans, but every once in awhile help out on the retail side, not anymore, too many rules.

Then last week we were updated on additional mortgage regs that are coming out. If you work for mortgage company, (not a bank), you will have to be licensed; annual education, pay a fee, cann't ever have gotten into any legal trouble and have to have a min. credit score. So the whole mortgage problem was not caused by the people that took out the loans, just the people that made them. Never mind that the Clinton admin order that the rules be relaxed.

The number the mortgage reps out there in the past two years is more than cut in half. Problem is solved.
 
I learned the hard way not to wade too deep with the auto inflation type vest on. When the wafer gets wet "poof" 15$. But those things are comfortable and easy to wear.

Dave
 
Thanks for the heads up, I forwarded to other VT hunters that roam to the NY side of Champlain. I wear one in rough weather, but been planning to get an inflatable.
 
But Pete that is where are government is going.

As you may know I work for a bank, we were recently updated about changes to mortgage laws. The short of it is, if you want to use your house as collateral for any type of loan, better plan at least two weeks in advance due to the new regs. I make mainly business/commercial loans, but every once in awhile help out on the retail side, not anymore, too many rules.

Then last week we were updated on additional mortgage regs that are coming out. If you work for mortgage company, (not a bank), you will have to be licensed; annual education, pay a fee, cann't ever have gotten into any legal trouble and have to have a min. credit score. So the whole mortgage problem was not caused by the people that took out the loans, just the people that made them. Never mind that the Clinton admin order that the rules be relaxed.

The number the mortgage reps out there in the past two years is more than cut in half. Problem is solved.
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I'm astounded that the mortgage industry is being treated so badly, what did it ever do to hurt anyone?!?!? What is the world coming to?
 
I'll make my semi-annual plug for float coats. An inflatable will do nothing to prolong your survival in cold water. A float coat will dramatically increase the time you can fend off hypothermia, this is may be a couple hour extension, vs. less than an hour without. I wear mine every day and love it. Look at the Mustang Bombers - the same thing a lot of rescue folks wear.

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While I'm not the law on this, the New York State website says "United States Coast Guard approved" so if you get a wearable inflatable that's approved you should be all set.
 
I have an inflatable that I haven't used yet. I'm pretty comfortable with my conventional and I wear it often. Two questions from this thread -

Do any of you guys shoot while wearing the inflatable?

Tod - do you / can you shoot while wearing the float coat?

One of my hang ups with the inflatable is . . . . what if it doesn't inflate? I don't have to worry about that with my conventional.

NR
 
I have an inflatable that I haven't used yet. I'm pretty comfortable with my conventional and I wear it often. Two questions from this thread -

Do any of you guys shoot while wearing the inflatable?

Tod - do you / can you shoot while wearing the float coat?

One of my hang ups with the inflatable is . . . . what if it doesn't inflate? I don't have to worry about that with my conventional.

NR
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On the Mustang float coat, no interference at all. The body of the coat is a uniform approximately 3/4" foam pad that covers the whole shooting area smoothly without seams or anything to get in teh way of shooting. I have never had a problem. I would say it is less cumbersome than a regular waterfowl jacket with liner because it doesn't bunch up.

The coats are nicely warm and with a little layering underneath they will keep you warm in the coldest conditions. Mine is getting a little tired after 4 or 5 years of heavy use and is still waterproof, but it doesn't shed water like it used to. I tried to re-treat it with scotchguard (per Mustang), but it didn't bring it back 100%. I wear a slicker over it on wet days or when there will eb spray and like that even better since it doesnt' get crusted with salt. Were I to do it again, I'd wear a slicker over it from day one.

T
 
"But Pete that is where are government is goin...If you work for mortgage company, (not a bank), you will have to be licensed; annual education, pay a fee, cann't ever have gotten into any legal trouble and have to have a min. credit score. " Thanks for the heads up!!! Just thinking:If the same rules apply to Czars ,I wonder how many would be disqualified? Tom
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