No patience with NON duck killers....

Tod,

Poor guy is stuck in the middle, loves stickers, but hunts over hand carved dekes with a fox side by each.

I wish people would make it easier to stereotype them... :-)
 
Tod,

Poor guy is stuck in the middle, loves stickers, but hunts over hand carved dekes with a fox side by each.

I wish people would make it easier to stereotype them... :-)
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Maybe he is a commie or liberal so we can place him in some sort of box.

Ed, can you chime in on this? We need a label for you.

T
 
as long as my corner has ducks im fine with that. i hope that if any of you happen upon me and my truck at a launch you dont judge based on my stickers but how i conduct myself. i think that was what the original poster was getting at, was the attitude of the other young guns that have stickers but feel theres nothing to be learned from the seasoned sportsmen that share the launches. those guys that build boats and carve i find fascinating. ive run into some folks that try to hide from me as i approach hopping to avoid talking to me, for what reason i have no clue. im only trying to learn and offer any help i can, like holding a boat while the other guy gets the truck or unloading something. the guys that hog space at ramps brag about the ducks they shot or really didnt shoot or the ones that refuse to talk to you at all or let you near their boat are the ones i have problems with.

in my area enough people know who i am to not have much of a problem with me asking how they did or offering to help with their gear, but i have encountered the few that dont want you to be out there for fear of discovering "their" hunting spot (on a public lake) and they will say and do just about anything to keep you off the water.

i have stickers on my truck and gun and canoe. i have plastic decoys along with some corks. i have rubber wadders an 870 remington express super magnum that i shoot 3.5 #2s at 1625fps out of and i shoot it well. i dont hold out for drakes, i eat what i shoot -charlie even those mergazers we shot- i honestly feel bad for loosing a cripple, or having to shoot a bird more then once. i choose to paddle to my blind and build it myself. i have a wax cotton coat made in vermont and everthing under that is licensed by DU, even the under wear. my father and grand father didnt duck hunt so im learning from everyone else i come into contact with at ramps, dinner banquets and decoy shows and anywhere else knowledge can be found. the guys i hunt with range in age from 20 to 47 or so. in that bunch there are "duck killers" and guys that carve decoys and guys that cant stand the young guys that just want to kill ducks. i think im more then fortunate to hunt with both and dont really care to be labeled anything but a duck hunter or a sportsman.

eddie
 
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eddie,

I hope you I am pokign fun at the poeple who feel like they need to stereotype everyone, not you.

I'll be the first to say you're a stand up guy and you're welcome in my boat or blind any day of the week. I thoroughly enjoyed hunting with you, and hope to do it again someday.

Franlky I could care less about how many stickers anyone has. I've got a few myself!

I think everyone could do with a little less judging of others. I am not sure, but I suspect that Tod O and Goosebruce are trying to say that too. We're all trying to keep it light though...

Charlie
"tree hugging conservative liberal killer museum piece"
 
Man I wuz kewl wif the stickers, the deeks, the 870, even the vermont thingy... but when charlie vouched for ya. I dunno. hehehe.

Yes, that was my point Ive been trying to make all the time. sterotyping someone is risky at best... in reality its funny (or sad) for someone to decide THEIR way is the way, and to not have patience with anyone else. I used to think the same way a lot of time about other hunters, and this site is what changed my mind about that a long long time ago. While I dont carve, or make my own boats, or think a sunrise is something unique (even if I do like them), Ive got enough friends that do things different to make me appricate them. I could give you dozens of examples of stuff once I learned how others did it, I learned to appricate them, even if I don't ness appricate the work. And theres been dozens of times folks on here freaked on me for tales of totesacks full of ducks... never realizing the inverse, the norm here and for me isn't the norm where they're from. I always find that even funnier. Guess the cut and dried version is, if you judge someone before you know them, your real likely to miss out on someone you might have been lucky to call a friend. Even if you don't need friends personally, the sport defiently needs no more division in it if it even has a chance to survive. travis
 
not to worry charlie i figured as much.

well if we dont keep things light we might start taking in water :)

eddie
 
Don't know for sure and for certain if Nash was a gentleman but it is my perception that he was. My favorite Nash story is de Shootinest Gentleman written as though the ever loyal Horace was telling it and the "star" of that story was Capt. Harold Money not Nash. Truly he was a product of his time and surely that time was the beginning of the end of the "Old South". The loss of Bo Whoop was a true tradgedy to him as it would have been to most of us. Bert Becker even told him that he didn't know if the replacement gun was going to be as good as the first.
Guess sometimes we all percieve our heroes as a little bigger than they actually are or were. Having said that, I still think he was a very special hunter and gentleman.
Harry
 
Great thread Travis. But I'm surprised by where it's going.

This site's all about better experiences of duck hunting, not just different ones. It's about building better boats, meeting better hunters, how to carve better decoys, how to shoot better, how to enjoy hunting more. It's also about getting a better understanding of this crazy waterfowling affliction we all suffer from.

I don't build boats to be "different." I build them because it's better to hunt out of them. This fall when a johnboat followed me across the river channel to the harbor and the guys laughed at my bluebill, told me I was crazy for going out in high wind with that little boat, they weren't just expressing a difference of opinion, they thought I was crazy and I thought they were flat out ignorant about boats. They were wrong and I was right. They might have been better hunters than I am; but they were also more likely to drown on a windy day.

I was brought up to shoot first and find out what it is later. I'm teaching my boys to know what they're looking at before they shoot. I think it's better than the way I was taught. I was brought up to let em land first, then swat em before they take off again. I'm teaching my boys not to swat em on the water. I don't tell them "Let's just do it this way. It's different." I think it's better to shoot ducks on the wing.

Now, we might disagree about what's better and what's worse. And I do agree with you that guys look foolish when they rush to judgment about things they don't know enough about. But what's the point of just settling every argument by saying everyone's different?
 
Ed,

I like the point your making. We're all in this together. I'm 30 and drive a nice truck and hunt from a TDB. I'm fortunate to have a good job and my wife does as well and we spend our money on what is important to us. But there are times at the ramp that people shy away from me, possibly because of the appearance that a TDB can seem uppity. I don't know for sure. Last year a guy in a john boat cut me off backing into the ramp and backed down into the water before getting his gear in order and then sat there with the boat in the water loading it up. Well, he forgot his plug.. when he launched the boat it was already full of water.. and sank as he pulled away. Not seeing what happened I pulled down, launched and parked. Went back to see only the blind out of the water on the john boat. I waited for the other hunter to come back to the ramp.. he was messing around at the truck. Asked him if he wanted some help, he was kinda jerky earlier but that is a tough spot to be in. He turned around and walked away like he didn't hear me. So, I went hunting.

At my in-laws in Jersey no one talked to me at the ramp the first few YEARS I hunted there. Now, I'm one of the regulars and we even swap tips on where the birds are! But it took years of using the same ramp! As with anywhere they are a little territorial and leary of out of state plates, no offense jersey guys, we're the same here.

I'm happy to hunt with anyone who enjoys the hunt. If there are birds to shoot, heck yeah lets shoot 'em! If there aren't any birds or it's slow, quit your whining or your not getting another invite! I had a hunt this year where we killed some birds. I had a good time watching the guys I had with enjoying themselves. I never picked the gun up. They were not shots I would have enjoyed. One was a merganser that decoyed well, I would have shot him but let someone else. After the hunt I saw the merg headed for the trash can at the ramp. The guy sited the health advisory on not eating to many of them and that they don't taste good. I asked why he shot it. He said because we were duck hunting, that's what he came for. He won't be coming back with me. I would have shot it also, same result for the merg, but I would have and did eat it although not my bird. Some of the other birds that day swam into the spread and were flushed and shot. Again, not really my thing but the guys with enjoyed it. I have nothing morally against, just not what I was after that day. I do sneak hunt creeks which is the same basic thing. The guys I had with had a great time and I enjoyed taking them, right up until the merg incident! I hope I can keep taking new duck hunters with and showing them what makes me enjoy it so much.

If there are guys in my area bringing in piles of ducks I want to know what the heck they're doing! I don't often get to think about NOT shooting at ducks, I'm alot more concerned about getting TO shoot some ducks!

Best wishes,

Gene
 
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