Not one to let a dead horse lay

Lee Harker

Lee Harker

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without poking it with a stick.....I am copy/pasting a post from Larry Ekart from the MLB page.



Guys,
I'm reading a book on the period 1815-1840 as the states of Michigan, Ohio, Indiana and Illinios were being settled.

One page has this quote about the weather... lengthy, but I think you'll find it interesting.

"The unusual summer of 1816, the 'year without a summer', gave frost and sometimes ice during June, July and August. A similar summer was experienced in Michigan in 1835. In 1819 the winter was so mild that boats continued their regular trips at Detroit in February. In 1824-25 ice houses remained empty and the geese were going north in midwinter. In Ohio, tender vegetation were standing green in gardens in March. Again in 1828, there was no ice to impede navigation in Lake Erie and beets, carrots and lettuce planted in December were up in February. In January 1833, frogs were singing along the Sangamon River (near Springfield, Illinois.. In Michigan in 1839-40 boys played ball at intervals all winter and plowing was done in each month.

"On the other hand, in February 1826, temperature reached 12 below in Detroit where there were five weeks of sleighing. Perhaps the hardest winter was 1830-31. In southern Indiana and Illnois, for weeks snow lay sometimes 3-4 feet deep."


Personally I accept the whole idea of global warming and what man is doing to goof up the environment, but it is obvious that weather extremes have been with us all along.

That said, I'm personally tired of snow and cold. Southern Michigan typically has 45 inches of snow per season. This year we've had 70 before we even get to the heavy, wet snows of March.

God bless you brothers,
Larry

Interesting read I thought.
 
More simply stated; what goes around comes around.

:-)

That's all for now. I have to go chip 2 inches of ice off my driveway.....
 
You guys have been hammered. I heard on the weather report the Grand River is over flood stage again...our county has a flood warning too. I have been in denial and haven't been out to the cabin for two weeks. My girlfriend that lives next door hasn't called to tell me that my cabin floated by so......
 
Global warming is a fact. But the cause of it is open for debate. 30 years ago, all the scientists were predicting doom and gloom from the coming ice age. Now they are crying about global warming. Are we really polluting so much that we have turned the pending ice age into global warming in just 30 years?

The other thing that bothers me about the whole global warming thing is that the scientists are all running around talking about how we are causing this huge catastrophe and how it hasn't been this warm for 10,000 years. 10,000 years? Well who in the heck caused the global warming back then? And it was even worse 50,000 years ago. Who caused that one? And if mother nature caused those then how are these brainiacs sure that mother nature isn't causing this one when they were so sure that we were headed for a an ice age only 30 years ago?
 
lee
Thanks for sharing that--it is interesting. Is that one of those cycles occuring every certain number of years? We've set an all time record snow fall here in southern Wisconsin so maybe that's a start of a cycle here.
wis boz
 
10,000 yrs ago I had about 400' of water above my house!! and 10,000 yrs before that I would have been at the base of a glacier..... who is to say we are not still coming out of an ice age?
 
We already have flooding down here on the Rock River which isn't out of the ordinary except for the fact it usually happens towards the end of March. I was telling Lee yesterday, I'm already gearing up for a major flood this year and hope I'm wrong but this is heading into a year just like the spring 2000 when I had to rebuild. We had a record 45" of snow that year and we're at 43" right now with all of March to go. Not complaining mind you...nobody forced me to live on an island. Just getting my decoys in a row so to speak. Shoot, winter hit so fast this year my dock is stil out trapped in the ice. I hope I can salvage that. I don't want to build another one.

Take care,

Ed L.
 
It is said that "The year without a summer" was a result of a catastrophic volcano in the South Pacific. The fallout literally changed weather patterns and blocked out the sun for many months. Whatever the cause I agree with most of you. Weather patterns have been changing since the dawn of time.
 
One thing that I find interesting is that as global warming occurs the ice sheets melt. As the ice sheets melt the saline content of the oceans decreases. This in turn will cause the gulf stream to shut down. this will cause the temperatures to drop in the northern zones where the ice sheets were. Seems to me that good ol mother earth will heal itself no matter what happens. Its all cyclic checks and balances. Thats not to say we shouldnt do something about co2 and pollutants. But a good majority of the co2 levels that we see are coming from sources like volcanoes and the burning of the south american jungles for agriculture. One thing for sure is that some people, al Gore for one, are sure making a name for themselves, not to mention money with the whole global warming thing.
 
Dang it Lee the horse was dead, then you gotta go lay hands on it. Wait, it still appears dead, Uncited regurgitation be durned we need more anecdotal evidence!
 
I think TimJ would approve of this pic for Lee's topic.

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Here is another way to think about it, you could either choose to:

1) be pissed that your taxes will be spent trying to combat something you don't believe in and belly ache about like a bunch of belly-aching women (as you seem to be doing a good job at so far), or,

2) wish that it wasn't the case, but be okay with fact that your tax dollars are going to towards something positive.

You pick.

T
 
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Or option 3: Politely request that they do NOT spend our tax money on schemes, based on 20 year forecasts by people who will admit that they can not, as yet give us a reliable 10 Day Forecast.

What happened to the last two years of "well above average" hurricane season?

Consider the dead horse respectfully kicked again,

Mike
 
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I was gonna stay outa this'un, but hey I haven't had a real winter here yet.

Hate to admit it but along about September 1 I'm normally hoping that you guys north of the Mason Dixon line have a brutal winter.

They tell me our Outer Banks are soon gonna be gone and it looks as if the ducks may forever stay up Nawth. Guess I'll have to learn to play Golf or buy a Harley Davidson.

Guess I kicked post mortem too.

Best,
Harry
 
ON further reflection, Being assured that the government is spending my money, against my will, for my own good, AND that I should enjoy it, is likely to result in "regurgitation"
Especially after recently kicking a dead horse.

I believe I can cite the original source as pizza hut.





Man I wish duck season was open.

Mike
 
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Or option 3: Politely request that they do NOT spend our tax money on schemes, based on 20 year forecasts by people who will admit that they can not, as yet give us a reliable 10 Day Forecast.

What happened to the last two years of "well above average" hurricane season?
Click to expand...

Preach on...

...but wait, you should know better than to base hurricane activities on such a small sample size of 2 years. You need at least 50-100 years of data to predict the weather cycles over the entire earth's lifespan and without doubt CONFIRM that it is getting warmer. *rolls eyes sarcastically*
 
Well i'm typing on this computer with the ceiling fan on high and the window raised at 10:50 pm and it is somemore warm here. If there was a center for it, i'd say i've got to be close.
 
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