Oil Finishes

Douglas Baum

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@HenryHawthorne posted a pic of a flaming box elder burl call that he built and finished with tung oil that really blew me away. The rich soft sheen, with the eye popping burl details, it was a real feast for the eyes. It inspired me to order some tung oil. I will give it a go. I’ve used Velvit, Odies, and Sycamore Sauce Oil finishes, but never tried tung oil. Sounds like a longer process than I’m used to, and will require curing for a few days, but all I can think about it Henry’s flaming box elder oil finished call!! Man, that was one beautiful call. Time to try some Tung Oil.
 
@HenryHawthorne posted a pic of a flaming box elder burl call that he built and finished with tung oil that really blew me away. The rich soft sheen, with the eye popping burl details, it was a real feast for the eyes. It inspired me to order some tung oil. I will give it a go. I’ve used Velvit, Odies, and Sycamore Sauce Oil finishes, but never tried tung oil. Sounds like a longer process than I’m used to, and will require curing for a few days, but all I can think about it Henry’s flaming box elder oil finished call!! Man, that was one beautiful call. Time to try some Tung Oil.
Thanks Doug! I'm a big fan of pure tung oil, but it does take a little patience.

A few suggestions:
1 - pure tung oil is thick viscosity, and doesn't get absorbed well unless you cut it. I use a citrus solvent, but you can use mineral spirits or other solvents. I usually start with a 50/50 blend, then after the first few "coats" move to 75/25 and finish with pure. Of course, if using in a stabilized wood like that FBE it doesn't matter as it really isn't going to be absorbed much anyway
2 - though full cure can take up to 30 days, tung oil generally dries enough to be recoated in 24 hours - you just need to wait for full cure if you want a wax or other top coat
3 - it does like heat, so wetsanding with it at high grits or applying with a rag with some pressure while spinning on the lathe seems beneficial
4 - For calls made with woods, like walnut, that can take a good bit of oil, I've had good success with a dipping process: I'll dip/soak the barrel in a jar of 50/50 for up to 30 minutes, then remove and hang - at about 30 minutes, after the wood has absorbed all it will, wipe off all the excess and rehang - if fully dry, repeat at 24 or 48 hours - in between, check periodically for seepage - that will occur from time to time. I'll either wipe that seepage off or, more generally, take the opportunity to vigorously hand rub the call, building up a little warmth, then wipe with a clean cloth and rehang.
5 - the key, however you apply it, is to wipe off excess at around 30 minutes - leaving any excess will lead to a gumminess that seems to never dry
6 - Regardless of application method, I conclude that it has enough coats when it stops absorbing - ie., when, after that 30 minutes, the entire surface of the call is showing excess to be wiped off.

I like pure tung oil because it is natural and non-toxic (totally food-safe), it doesn't yellow like linseed oil, it truly does dry (unlike walnut and most other oils) even without drying agents, and it is easy to refinish a few years down the road if needed by reapplication.
 
That’s great information. Thank you very much for sharing that. I have some mineral oil and will try it. I read that the Odies combined a wax element that made it a quick all in one solution, but I’m thinking I should finish the pure tung oil finish with some carnuba wax on the buffing wheel. Am I heading in the right direction? I’m also wondering if the Tripoli buffing compound on a buffing wheel could do the job of the wet sanding.
 
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That’s great information. Thank you very much for sharing that. I have some mineral oil and will try it. I read that the Odies combined a wax element that made it a quick all in one solution, but I’m thinking I should finish the pure tung oil finish with some carnuba wax on the buffing wheel. Am I heading in the right direction?
Mineral spirits, not oil (in case that wasn't a typo).

Yes, I'll often buff on carnauba or beeswax after letting the tung cure, if I want some shine on the call (the tung oil finish itself will be very low sheen).
 
I use mostly tung oil on my wood working projects, sometimes danish oil for the sake of tradition on certain pieces.

One thing is tung oil is very allergen friendly unlike some of the other oils that are used.

I've never waxed my stuff but I might have to start doing that on things I want to keep a nice sheen on, especially when I start making calls
 
I've never used tung oil but have had great success with Birchwood Casey Tru-Oil refinishing a Ruger 10-22 rifle. Very easy to work with and cures/dries faster than tung oil as I understand it.
RM
 
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Doug

I use oil finishes for about 90% of the projects that come out of my shop. Waterlox is my favorite blended oil and I like tung oil over linseed since it is a little better suited for outdoor/wet environments. To me taking days and many coats to arrive at a finish is satisfying. A lot of folks like the fast results from water based poly but oil makes the grain come alive to my eye.
 
I will have to check out Waterlox. My jar of Odies is just about done. I will replace that with Waterlox and give it a try. I am picking up some awesome info here, feels like the old THO days! All of this information on oil finishes is a huge help. The pure tung oil arrives today, and I'm ready to invest the time and excited to see the results.
 
Doug

I know you mentioned using oil finishes before so what follows may or may not be useful. You may already have a system. Unlike friction polishes where the call is held in the lathe and there is no drying to speak of, oil finishes take time to dry and require multiple coats. If all you are doing is one call you can apply the oil while the part is chucked in the lathe and leave it to dry. If you need to do several then you'll want a way to hold the call while you apply the oil and a place for it to dry. For this I use 5/8" or 1/4" dowels and a block of scrap wood. The dowel is slid into the barrel/insert with enough friction to hold. The finish is applied (wiped on) and then the dowel/call is inserted in a hefty block of wood with holes drilled to receive multiple dowels. It is placed in a dust free area to dry for the next coat.

I know this is pretty basic stuff but I like to have such details worked out before I open a can of Waterlox and am left holding a wet part wondering what I'm going to do with it while I look for a place to set it that won't mess the finish up.
 
Doug

I know you mentioned using oil finishes before so what follows may or may not be useful. You may already have a system. Unlike friction polishes where the call is held in the lathe and there is no drying to speak of, oil finishes take time to dry and require multiple coats. If all you are doing is one call you can apply the oil while the part is chucked in the lathe and leave it to dry. If you need to do several then you'll want a way to hold the call while you apply the oil and a place for it to dry. For this I use 5/8" or 1/4" dowels and a block of scrap wood. The dowel is slid into the barrel/insert with enough friction to hold. The finish is applied (wiped on) and then the dowel/call is inserted in a hefty block of wood with holes drilled to receive multiple dowels. It is placed in a dust free area to dry for the next coat.

I know this is pretty basic stuff but I like to have such details worked out before I open a can of Waterlox and am left holding a wet part wondering what I'm going to do with it while I look for a place to set it that won't mess the finish up.
Always good to hear/see how others do simple things, too.

I use wire coat hangers. I cut a 9" or so section, make a hook on one end (for hanging on something, over a pan for any dripping) and bend the rest (about halfway) to 180° so that the end touches the hanger, but without a sharp bend. This allows me to insert the large bend into the barrel of the call and puts enough pressure against the inside wall to hold it securely. Alternatively, I'll bend the 9" piece in half (loosely) with the last 1/4" of the ends/tips bent outwards, effectively creating reverse tongs for holding the call from the inside. This is also what I use to dip and retrieve calls from a jar of oil.

Another great idea I've seen for drying, but haven't yet done myself, makes use of old bandsaw blades. Cut them into 6-10" pieces. Make slots every 1/4" or 1/2" for those pieces in a piece of scrap ply or other board (length the same as the bandsaw pieces) and width as big as you want for the size of project(s), then bond/epoxy the blade pieces in teeth up. You end up with a nice drying board with minimal (teeth point) contact with your project.
 
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