Old Holland paint question.

Brandon Yuchasz

Brandon Yuchasz

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I am in the process of changing over to Old Holland oil paints and am having an issues with one color. I like to use lamp black as a warm black but Old Holand does not seem to have lamp black. They have mars black but I am fairly sure that's a cool black. I would like to stick with the equivalent warm black if possible.

So anyone able to shed some light on what I should be ordering?
 
Brandon- I have one of those little heaters for a single cup of coffee that I keep a stainless steel camping cup full of water on. I set tubes of paint it to warm them up depending on how fast I want them to dry. I have a old coke machine I use to cool them with. Mars black seems to blend, spread, dry etc the same regardless of its temperature. Umbers and siennas on the other hand...
 
Brandon,

You disappoint me...once upon a time I complemented you by calling you a decoy maker...Shame on me!

Best
Chuck
 
Brandon,

Old holland dosen't make a lamp black, pigment number PLB6. Williamsburgh paint does and they are another high end paint. Have you thought about using OH Scheveningen intens black. It's carbon black pigment number PBL7
 
I use mars black as well and have been happy with it. The drake bluebills I posted on the workbench thread this month have mars black on them.
 
Thanks guys.

George that was my concern as well. I am finally used to how to mix to get a color I am looking for on the fly I don't want to end up with a different color because I switched what pigment of black I am using. From the feedback I got in PMs and here I don't think it will be to much of an issues switching. As for making blue I never mix just black and white for grey learned a long time ago that Raw Umber is my friend when making grey.
 
Brandon,

I know where you can order some dark black, will that work?
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I dont know is it black? If so it should work as black right?

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Brandon If Mars black is to dark try Celestial black. If you go out at night and look up. In the summer though. To cool now. I'll PM you on how to mix it. Trade secret you know.......
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Black is black
I want my baby back
It's gray, it's gray
Since she went away, Ooh-Ooh
What can I do
'Cause I-I-I-I-I'm feelin' blue
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Maybe his "baby" is really lamp black oil paint? He's "feelin' blue" because this new black isn't warm...
 
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On a related note Brandon, it IS tough to go back to Grumbachers after you've used Old Hollands isn't it? I made the same move myself a while back. I figured that in the grand scheme of things, paint is actually pretty cheap when you consider how much you use overall on a single decoy. Initial cost to get in was painful, but it works out in the end and I enjoy using them more.
 
On a related note Brandon, it IS tough to go back to Grumbachers after you've used Old Hollands isn't it? I made the same move myself a while back. I figured that in the grand scheme of things, paint is actually pretty cheap when you consider how much you use overall on a single decoy. Initial cost to get in was painful, but it works out in the end and I enjoy using them more.
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I got to use them in Jode's class a few years ago so I had a good idea of how they would be and yes I really like them. Mostly its the consistency they come out of the tube at and the pigment coverage I like. As for the cost when you add in every time I run out of a tube I either order online and pay shipping or drive 150 miles to the art store. The cost difference between brands on a tube just is not that much. Its the shipping and that's the same either way.
 
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